[cabf_validation] Update 3.2.2.4 for Applicants that are Individual Natural Persons

[Ryan Sleevi]

On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos <jimmy at it.auth.gr>
wrote:

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> On 2/6/2018 1:11 μμ, Ryan Sleevi wrote:
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> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 2:38 AM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Validation <
> validation at cabforum.org> wrote:
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>> On 2/6/2018 3:05 πμ, Wayne Thayer wrote:
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>> The current BRs in 3.2.2.4 state that
>>> "For purposes of domain validation, the term Applicant includes the
>>> Applicant's Parent Company, Subsidiary Company, or Affiliate."
>>>
>>> which doesn't include the case of an Applicant being an Individual
>>> Natural Person. Since the term "Applicant" is already defined in 1.6.1,
>>> this sentence should probably me amended to point to 1.6.1 instead of
>>> trying to re-define the term.
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>> The statement in section 3.2.2.4 is intended to extend the definition of
>> the term "Applicant" to parent and subsidiary companies for the purposes of
>> domain validation only. It is not intended to change or conflict with the
>> definition in 1.6.1. My recollection is that the statement in 3.2.2.4 was
>> added because some of the domain validation methods could not be used if
>> the domain name registrant was not the exact same legal entity as the
>> Applicant. In other words, the sentence in 3.2.2.4 is the same as changing
>> every instance of "Applicant" in that section to "Applicant, Applicant's
>> Parent Company, Applicant's Subsidiary Company, or Applicant's Affiliate".
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>> This makes more sense now. I guess this applies for all representations
>> of an Applicant throughout the document and perhaps would be appropriate to
>> add it in the existing definition.
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>> *"Applicant*: The natural person or Legal Entity that applies for (or
>>> seeks renewal of) a Certificate. Once the Certificate issues, the Applicant
>>> is referred to as the Subscriber. For Certificates issued to devices, the
>>> Applicant is the entity that controls or operates the device named in the
>>> Certificate, even if the device is sending the actual certificate request."
>>>
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>> How about this:
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>> *"Applicant*: The natural person or Legal Entity that applies for (or
>> seeks renewal of) a Certificate. The term Applicant includes the
>> Applicant's Parent Company, Subsidiary Company, or Affiliate. Once the
>> Certificate issues, the Applicant is referred to as the Subscriber. For
>> Certificates issued to devices, the Applicant is the entity that controls
>> or operates the device named in the Certificate, even if the device is
>> sending the actual certificate request."
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>> and of course removal from 3.2.2.4.
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> Because this substantially changes the definition. You've now changed it
> for every occurrence of Applicant, rather than just 3.2.2.4 as it was
> intended. Sorry I didn't explain that well-enough on the issue.
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> No problem, that's why we have the opportunity for discussion :) Do you
> mean that the Applicant definition is not used consistently throughout the
> document and deserves some special treatment in 3.2.2.4?
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Yes, Wayne was explaining, the way it is structured, Applicant has a
consistent definition throughout the BRs, as in the definitions. For
3.2.2.4, and 3.2.2.4 alone, additional parties are also allowed to be
considered the Applicant - the Parent Company, Subsidiary Company, or
Affiliate. That is only for 3.2.2.4.
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