[cabf_validation] Update 3.2.2.4 for Applicants that are Individual Natural Persons
Dimitris Zacharopoulos
jimmy at it.auth.gr
Sat Jun 2 05:14:24 MST 2018
On 2/6/2018 1:11 μμ, Ryan Sleevi wrote:
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> On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 2:38 AM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Validation
> <validation at cabforum.org <mailto:validation at cabforum.org>> wrote:
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> On 2/6/2018 3:05 πμ, Wayne Thayer wrote:
>>
>> The current BRs in 3.2.2.4 state that
>> "For purposes of domain validation, the term Applicant
>> includes the Applicant's Parent Company, Subsidiary Company,
>> or Affiliate."
>>
>> which doesn't include the case of an Applicant being an
>> Individual Natural Person. Since the term "Applicant" is
>> already defined in 1.6.1, this sentence should probably me
>> amended to point to 1.6.1 instead of trying to re-define the
>> term.
>>
>> The statement in section 3.2.2.4 is intended to extend the
>> definition of the term "Applicant" to parent and subsidiary
>> companies for the purposes of domain validation only. It is not
>> intended to change or conflict with the definition in 1.6.1. My
>> recollection is that the statement in 3.2.2.4 was added because
>> some of the domain validation methods could not be used if the
>> domain name registrant was not the exact same legal entity as the
>> Applicant. In other words, the sentence in 3.2.2.4 is the same as
>> changing every instance of "Applicant" in that section to
>> "Applicant, Applicant's Parent Company, Applicant's Subsidiary
>> Company, or Applicant's Affiliate".
>
> This makes more sense now. I guess this applies for all
> representations of an Applicant throughout the document and
> perhaps would be appropriate to add it in the existing definition.
>
>> *"Applicant*: The natural person or Legal Entity that applies
>> for (or seeks renewal of) a Certificate. Once the Certificate
>> issues, the Applicant is referred to as the Subscriber. For
>> Certificates issued to devices, the Applicant is the entity
>> that controls or operates the device named in the
>> Certificate, even if the device is sending the actual
>> certificate request."
>>
>
> How about this:
>
> *"Applicant*: The natural person or Legal Entity that applies for
> (or seeks renewal of) a Certificate. The term Applicant includes
> the Applicant's Parent Company, Subsidiary Company, or Affiliate.
> Once the Certificate issues, the Applicant is referred to as the
> Subscriber. For Certificates issued to devices, the Applicant is
> the entity that controls or operates the device named in the
> Certificate, even if the device is sending the actual certificate
> request."
>
> and of course removal from 3.2.2.4.
>
>
> Because this substantially changes the definition. You've now changed
> it for every occurrence of Applicant, rather than just 3.2.2.4 as it
> was intended. Sorry I didn't explain that well-enough on the issue.
No problem, that's why we have the opportunity for discussion :) Do you
mean that the Applicant definition is not used consistently throughout
the document and deserves some special treatment in 3.2.2.4?
Dimitris.
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