[cabf_validation] Amend BR subsections 7.1.4.2.2 d/e

陳立群 realsky at cht.com.tw
Fri Jun 3 03:55:31 MST 2016


Dear All,

 

     As yesterday’s validation working group phone call discussion about DN
in small countries such as Singapore and Taiwan. I resend some discussions
after Certificate Policy working group mailing list  phone call, Bugzilla
and discussion in 33rd F2F meeting (as attached file) as below.  

After  discussions, we will write a pre-ballot to fix the issue.

 

     We suggest to amend BR 7.1.4.2.2 d/e. 

 

 <mailto:lcchen.cissp at gmail.com> Li-Chun CHEN 2016-02-05 01:29:17 MST 

After discussion in Chunghwa Telecom, Dr. Wen-Cheng Wang suggests to amend
subsections 7.1.4.2.2 d/e as below: 

 

d.    Certificate Field: subject:localityName (OID: 2.5.4.7) 

Required if the subject:organizationName field is present and the
subject:stateOrProvinceName field is absent.

Optional if: (a) the subject:organizationName and
subject:stateOrProvinceName fields are present, or (b) if the

subject:organizationName and subject:countryName fields are present and the
country/jurisdiction specified by the

subject:countryName field has a centralized registry for that kind of
organizations so that the

organization name specified by the subject:organizationName field is
"unique" in the entire country/jurisdiction.

Normally, situation (b) may exist in small countries/jurisdictions such as
Singapore (SG), Taiwan (TW), etc.

 

e.    Certificate Field: subject:stateOrProvinceName (OID: 2.5.4.8) 

Required if the subject:organizationName field is present and
subject:localityName field is absent.

Optional if: (a) the subject:organizationName and
subject:stateOrProvinceName fields are present, or (b) if the

subject:organizationName and subject:countryName fields are present and the
country/jurisdiction specified by the

subject:countryName field has a centralized registry for that kind of
organizations so that the

organization name specified by the subject:organizationName field is
"unique" in the entire country/jurisdiction.

Normally, situation (b) may exist in small countries/jurisdictions such as
Singapore (SG), Taiwan (TW), etc.

 

      As for Peter, he e-mailed that

I think there is a misunderstanding.  The address represented in the
certificate by the plain localityName and stateOrProvinceName attributes is
the Applicant’s address of existence or operation, not their jurisdiction
of incorporation.  The BRs note that a utility bill or bank statement can be
used to verify the address.  

 

For example, https://crt.sh/?id=11206357
<https://crt.sh/?id=11206357&opt=cablint> &opt=cablint shows that the FQDN
is www.fenton.com.tw. The contact information provided on the website (http:
//www.fenton.com.tw/index.php?route=information/contact) is 高雄市新興區民權
一路251號24樓之2.  Assuming you verify that this is the address of the
applicant, then you could include 高雄市 (or Kaohsiung) in the localityName
or stateOrProvinceName field.

 

I don’t think there is any need to update the BRs for this case.  

 

 

      But I have to say that  高雄市 (or Kaohsiung) should be  in the
localityName field. There is no State or Province in Taiwan for高雄市(or
Kaohsiung).

 

     And Dr. Wen-Cheng Wang has replied to Peter as below:

 

   We know that the current BR tends to interpret the localityName and
stateOrProvinceName attributes as identifying the subject’s address of
existence or operation. However, to enforce this kind of interpretation and
require the Subject DN must at least contain either the localityName and
stateOrProvinceName attributes may cause problem in some situations,
especially in some small country where organizations are allowed to be
registered at country-level. For example, in Taiwan, a corporation can be
registered at country-level but can also be register at city/county-level.
If there is a country-level corporation named “Farmer’s Association” of
which physical address is located in Taipei City, with current Subject DN
rule of BR, its Subject DN will be “C=TW, L=Taipei City, O=Farmer’s
Association”. However, if there is also a city/county-level “Farmer’s
Association” in Taipei City, its Subject DN will also be “C=TW, L=Taipei
City, O=Farmer’s Association”. How do you distinguish them by DN?

 

I do not understand why we need to enforce require the Subject DN must at
least contain either the localityName and stateOrProvinceName attributes if
the registered organizational name of a country-level
corporation/organization is already guaranteed to be unique under the
country name?

 

The following diagram is taken from Annex B of ITU-T X.521 (Suggested name
form and Directory information tree structures). Please note path 1 -> 3, it
suggests that there is no need to include a Locality attribute in the
directory name of a country-level organization.

cid:image001.png at 01D169D3.5ED33150

 

 

Sincerely Yours,

 

        Li-Chun CHEN

        Chunghwa Telecom Co. Ltd.

 

 



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