[cabfpub] C=GR, C=UK exceptions in BRs

[Erwann Abalea]

Bonjour,

For the sake of the exercise, lets extend the question to United Nations. UN headquarters are not subject to US law, they’re considered as international territory.
UN has no country code, even if the « UN » ISO3166-1 country code has been reserved.
Under current BR, clause 3.2.2.3 says that a CA could issue a certificate for UN with C=US if:
 - the web site's IP address has been assigned to the US;
 - the applicant’s IP address has been assigned to the US;
 - ccTLD used is .us; or
 - the Domain Name Registrar provides information saying that the subject is in the US
(method (d) can hardly return a positive result for C=US).

Under current BR, having C=UN is not possible. Is it correct to forbid C=UN for this specific case?

(www.un.org<http://www.un.org> and www.un.int<http://www.un.int> have an OV certificate clearly listing a physical place that is within the UN HQ (i.e. international territory), with C=US)

Cordialement,
Erwann Abalea

Le 20 mars 2017 à 18:22, Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public <public at cabforum.org<mailto:public at cabforum.org>> a écrit :

Thank you Gerv, I will try contacting the NQIS ELOT<https://www.iso.org/member/1759.html>, the Greek representative body in ISO, to see if there is more to this "EL" story.

Thanks everyone for the discussion.


Dimitris.



On 20/3/2017 2:35 μμ, Gervase Markham wrote:

On 20/03/17 08:03, Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public wrote:


I don't know if the Greek government has contacted ISO3166 in order to
add some text that makes an "exceptional reservation" notice for "EL"
but would this change anything? I mean "UK" is already marked as
"exceptionally reserved" but it's still not allowed in the current BRs.


It would change everything. If EL were exceptionally reserved, that
would mean it could not be allocated to another country, and it would be
reserved for use by Greece. Without such an exceptional reservation, it
could be allocated at any time. New countries do come into being from
time to time, you know :-)

In other words, I think it would be fine (although not compulsory) to
update the BRs to allow countries to use alternate codes which were
exceptionally reserved for them. There is no risk of ambiguity here. But
it would be deeply unwise for us to update the BRs to allow the use of
officially-unallocated country identifiers.

I am not suggesting that Dimitris petition the ISO, I am saying that if
the Greek government want people to use EL, _they_ need to sort it out
with ISO. They probably have more clout than Dimitris, anyway ;-)

Gerv


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