[cabf_validation] FW: [cabfcert_policy] A question about EV SSL Certificate Guidelines 11.2.1. Verification Requirements

Mon Feb 15 03:50:40 MST 2016

Dear Kirk,

      As below sentences in EVGL 8.5.4 section about Registration Agency for Business Entity Subjects,  I suggest to modify the wording of EVGL 11.2.1 3(B)

      8.5.4. Business Entity Subjects

An Applicant qualifies as a Business Entity if:

(1) The entity is a legally recognized entity that filed certain forms with a Registration Agency in its jurisdiction, the

Registration Agency issued or approved the entity’s charter, certificate, or license, and the entity’s existence can be

verified with that Registration Agency;

(2) The entity has a verifiable physical existence and business presence;

(3) At least one Principal Individual associated with the entity is identified and validated by the CA;

(4) The identified Principal Individual attests to the representations made in the Subscriber Agreement;

(5) the CA verifies the entity’s use of any assumed name used to represent the entity pursuant to the requirements of

Section 11.3 herein;

Sincerely Yours,

           Li-Chun

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Subject: RE: [cabf_validation] FW: [cabfcert_policy] A question about EV SSL Certificate Guidelines 11.2.1. Verification Requirements

Dear Kirk,

        I hope as  

     EVGL 11.2.1 (

3) Business Entity Subjects ***

(B) Organization Name: Verify that the Applicant’s formal legal name as recognized by the Registration agency or Registration Authority in the Applicant’s Jurisdiction of Registration matches the Applicant’s name in the EV Certificate Request.

       Note that, in the 4. Definitions, there are

Registration Agency: A Governmental Agency that registers business information in connection with an entity’s

business formation or authorization to conduct business under a license, charter or other certification. A Registration

Agency MAY include, but is not limited to (i) a State Department of Corporations or a Secretary of State; (ii) a

licensing agency, such as a State Department of Insurance; or (iii) a chartering agency, such as a state office or

department of financial regulation, banking or finance, or a federal agency such as the Office of the Comptroller of the

Currency or Office of Thrift Supervision.

Incorporating Agency: In the context of a Private Organization, the government agency in the Jurisdiction of

Incorporation under whose authority the legal existence of the entity is registered (e.g., the government agency that

issues certificates of formation or incorporation). In the context of a Government Entity, the entity that enacts law,

regulations, or decrees establishing the legal existence of Government Entities.

And it SSL BR:

1.6. DEFINITIONS AND ACRONYMS

Registration Authority (RA): Any Legal Entity that is responsible for identification and authentication of

subjects of Certificates, but is not a CA, and hence does not sign or issue Certificates. An RA may assist in the

certificate application process or revocation process or both. When “RA” is used as an adjective to describe a

role or function, it does not necessarily imply a separate body, but can be part of the CA.

      But you said “in the US, Business Entities (non-incorporated entities like a general partnership) generally do not file any documents with an “Incorporating Authority” the way a Private Organization (like a corporation) does.”, so maybe we have to reserve the term Registration Authority
and read as 

3) Business Entity Subjects ***

(B) Organization Name: Verify that the Applicant’s formal legal name as recognized by the Registration agency or Registration Authority in the Applicant’s Jurisdiction of Registration matches the Applicant’s name in the EV Certificate Request.

Sincerely Yours,

       Li-Chun

From: kirk_hall at trendmicro.com [mailto:kirk_hall at trendmicro.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:02 AM
To: Dean Coclin; validation at cabforum.org
Cc: 陳立群
Subject: RE: [cabf_validation] FW: [cabfcert_policy] A question about EV SSL Certificate Guidelines 11.2.1. Verification Requirements

Hi, Li-Chun – I think I agree with your suggested change, but I want to make sure I understand exactly what your suggested change is.

Do you want to amend EVGL 11.2.1(3)(b) to read as follows?

EVGL 11.2.1 (

3) Business Entity Subjects ***

(B) Organization Name: Verify that the Applicant’s formal legal name as recognized by the Incorporating or Registration Authority in the Applicant’s Jurisdiction of Registration matches the Applicant’s name in the EV Certificate Request.

This would make (3)(B) for Business Entity Subjects the same as (1)(B) for Private Organizations.  (A Business Entity is like a partnership, while a Private Organization is like a corporation.)

Is that the change that you are suggesting?

My only thought is that in the US, Business Entities (non-incorporated entities like a general partnership) generally do not file any documents with an “Incorporating Authority” the way a Private Organization (like a corporation) does.  However, it is possible that in some countries they do – so I would not object to a change.

Kirk

From: validation-bounces at cabforum.org [mailto:validation-bounces at cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Dean Coclin
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 12:39 AM
To: validation at cabforum.org
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Subject: [cabf_validation] FW: [cabfcert_policy] A question about EV SSL Certificate Guidelines 11.2.1. Verification Requirements

Forwarding on behalf of Li-Chun. Please see his question below.  Can someone from the Validation group please answer?

Thanks
Dean

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To: Dean Coclin <Dean_Coclin at symantec.com>; 'Ben Wilson' <ben.wilson at digicert.com>; policyreview at cabforum.org
Subject: RE: [cabfcert_policy] A question about EV SSL Certificate Guidelines 11.2.1. Verification Requirements

Dear Dean,

      I am not a member of validation working group. (Although I have joined a conference call one time of validation working group as I remember a wrong time for Certificate Policy Working Group).

      Please help me to post my question to the validation working group. Thank you.

Sincerely Yours,

             Li-Chun 

From: Dean Coclin [mailto:Dean_Coclin at symantec.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 1:59 PM
To: 陳立群; 'Ben Wilson'; policyreview at cabforum.org
Subject: RE: [cabfcert_policy] A question about EV SSL Certificate Guidelines 11.2.1. Verification Requirements

Sounds like a question more for the validation working group. Would you like to post it there? If you are not part of that group, we can post for you. Please advise.

Dean

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Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:59 PM
To: 'Ben Wilson' <ben.wilson at digicert.com>; policyreview at cabforum.org
Subject: [cabfcert_policy] A question about EV SSL Certificate Guidelines 11.2.1. Verification Requirements

Dear All,

       For EV SSL Certificate Guidelines 11.2.1. Verification Requirements , 

       (3) Business Entity Subjects

       (B) Organization Name: Verify that the Applicant’s formal legal name as recognized by the Registration Authority in the Applicant’s Jurisdiction of Registration matches the Applicant’s name in the EV Certificate

Request.

      Will it be suitable as 

(3) Business Entity Subjects

       (B) Organization Name: Verify that the Applicant’s formal legal name as recognized by the Registration Agency in the Applicant’s Jurisdiction of Registration matches the Applicant’s name in the EV Certificate

Request.

       As I compare with other type  such as 

(1) Private Organization Subjects

(B) Organization Name: Verify that the Applicant’s formal legal name as recorded with the Incorporating or

Registration Agency in the Applicant’s

Sincerely Yours,

Li-Chun CHEN

                    Senior Engineer

                    CISSP, CISA, CISM, PMP,

                    Information & Communication Security Dept.

                    Data Communication Business Group

                    Chunghwa Telecom Co. Ltd.

                    realsky at cht.com.tw

                    +886-2-2344-4820#4025

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