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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>Jeremy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>Why do a) i) and b) i) not end in &#8211;ORG? It seems like we want to put REG or DATE in the identifier, but I think we should always have ORG.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>-Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=left style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:left'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Rowley<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 06, 2016 1:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> Rich Smith &lt;richard.smith@comodo.com&gt;; public@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] FW: ambiguity implementing permanentIdentifier<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal align=left style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:left'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>This section needs several revisions, which we&#8217;ve discussed on the code signing mailing list. It&#8217;s probably about time to ballot some of these. &nbsp;Here&#8217;s a proposed change we previously discussed in the working group:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>The Certificate MUST include a SubjectAltName:permanentIdentifier (identifier). This field MUST contain a Unicode string created from the contents of the Certificate's subject fields using the first of the following to apply: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>a) If the Certificate contains the subjectjurisdictionOfIncorporationLocalityName field then<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>i) if the Certificate contains a Registration Number then the identifier is created and formatted as &quot;CC-LOC-REG&quot;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>ii) if the Certificate contains a Registration Date then identifier is created and formatted as &quot;CC-LOC-DATE-ORG&quot;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>iii) otherwise the identifier is&nbsp;created and formatted as &quot;CC-LOC-ORG&quot;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>b) If the Certificate contains the subjectjurisdictionOfIncorporationStateorProvinceName field then<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>i) if the Certificate contains a Registration Number then identifier is created and formatted as &quot;CC-STATE-REG&quot;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>ii) if the Certificate contains a Registration Date then identifier is created and formatted as &quot;CC-STATE-DATE-ORG&quot;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>iii) otherwise the identifier is&nbsp; created and formatted as &quot;CC-STATE-ORG&quot;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>Where:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>a) CC is the ISO 3166-2 country code corresponding Subject&#8217;s Jurisdiction of Incorporation or Registration (CC), as specified in the subject:jurisdictionOfIncorporationCountryName field;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>b) LOC is Subject&#8217;s Jurisdiction of Incorporation in uppercase characters as specified in the subjectjurisdictionOfIncorporationLocalityName, expressed in an unabbreviated format;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>c) STATE is the Subject's Jurisdiction of Incorporation in uppercase characters as specified in the subject:jurisdictionofIncorporationStateorProvinceName field, expressed in an unabbreviated format;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>d) REG is the Subject's Registration Number as included in the Subject:serialNumber field;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>e) DATE is the Subject's date of Incorporation or Registration in YYYY-MM-DD format (DATE) as included in the Subject:serialNumber field; and<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>f) ORG is the Subject&#8217;s Organization Name as included in the organizationName field (ORG), <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>g) All included &#8220;-&#8220; characters are Unicode 002D and any included spaces in REG, STATE, or ORG are Unicode 0020. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>The &#8220;assigner name form&#8221; MUST be absent from the SAN field used for the permanentIdentifier. However, it is expected that Application Software will treat the permanentIdentifier as globally unique.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Jeremy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=left style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:left'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rich Smith<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 6, 2016 1:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] FW: ambiguity implementing permanentIdentifier<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal align=left style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:left'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>This portion is pretty much identical to the EV Guidelines and I've always interpreted it to mean that for a business registered at the locality level, regardless of whether or not regulated by the state/province, the correct encoding is:<br>JC = xx, JST = yy, JL = zz<span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On 5/6/2016 2:41 PM, Dean Coclin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Forwarding to the public list for greater reach and commentary&#8230;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal align=left style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:left'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:codesigning-bounces@cabforum.org">codesigning-bounces@cabforum.org</a> [<a href="mailto:codesigning-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:codesigning-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Koichi Sugimoto<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 06, 2016 5:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:codesigning@cabforum.org">codesigning@cabforum.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [cabfc_s] ambiguity implementing permanentIdentifier</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal align=left style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:left'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>While I analyzing SubjectAltName:permanentIdentifier specified in section 9.7 of EV-Code-Signing-v.1.3.pdf,<br>I found an ambiguity of generating &#8220;STATE&#8221;.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>9.7 (B) 2) says:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>If applicable, the state, province, or locality of the Subject&#8217;s Jurisdiction of Incorporation in</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>uppercase characters as specified in the subjectjurisdictionOfIncorporationLocalityName or</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>subject:jurisdictionofIncorporationStateorProvinceName field, expressed in an unabbreviated</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>format (STATE);</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>Let JST be subjectjurisdictionOfIncorporationLocalityName and JL be subject:jurisdictionofIncorporationStateorProvinceName.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>In such case, following all patterns are acceptable?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;mso-para-margin-left:0gd;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>STATE=ST</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;mso-para-margin-left:0gd;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>STATE=JL-ST</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;mso-para-margin-left:0gd;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow;mso-fareast-language:JA'>STATE=JL</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>I also have a problem of implementing JST and JL.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>Section 9.2.5 of EV-V1_5_9.pdf specifies how to implement JST, JL and JC (JC means subject:jurisdictionCountryName).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>The specification says:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>For example, the Jurisdiction of Incorporation for an Incorporating Agency or</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>Jurisdiction of Registration for a Registration Agency that operates at the country level MUST include the country</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>information but MUST NOT include the state or province or locality information. Similarly, the jurisdiction for</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>the applicable Incorporating Agency or Registration Agency at the state or province level MUST include both</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>country and state or province information, but MUST NOT include locality information. And, the jurisdiction for</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>the applicable Incorporating Agency or Registration Agency at the locality level MUST include the country and</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>state or province information, where the state or province regulates the registration of the entities at the locality</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>level, as well as the locality information.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:JA'>I understand this definition as:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoN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