[cabfpub] What is identity anyway? Was: C=GR, C=UK exceptions in BRs

Ryan Sleevi sleevi at google.com
Tue Mar 21 17:38:49 UTC 2017


On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill at hallambaker.com
> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Ryan Sleevi via Public <
> public at cabforum.org> wrote:
>
>> Phillip,
>>
>> That does sound like a rather personal attack, questioning the person
>> rather than the facts. I would be happy to provide source and citations
>> that conflict with your representation of the history.
>>
>
> ​If you want to challenge my account of what I saw happen, I do suggest
> that you provide sources that support your alternative history. ​
>

I'll follow up with you offlist on this, because it's not useful or germane
to the conversation.


> Pointing out that I have direct personal experience of a set of events and
> you do not is not a personal attack. But contrawise, to respond to a
> personal account of what happened with an unsupported contradiction does
> look to me like a personal attack.
>

I see. You have a very different set of definition than personal attack,
but now I have a better understanding that unless I explicitly correct your
misstatements, you will take any disagreement personally. I will strive to
provide better examples for you in the future, although will strive to do
so offlist.


> ​I am not suggesting that DV has 'too much identity'.​ I am saying that if
> you want to make encryption a requirement for HTTP, that DV as presently
> defined is going to be too high a bar for some.
>

I see. Can you provide further details about why you believe domain
validation is too high a bar? I can't find any support for that in your
messages, so I must admit, I'm not understanding you.
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