[cabfpub] [外部郵件] Re: Draft Agenda for F2F meeting Research Triangle Park, NC - March 21-23

realsky(CHT) realsky at cht.com.tw
Mon Feb 27 13:22:53 UTC 2017

Since I needed an invitation letter to join F2F meeting, so I remeber Dean told me the meeting agenda is  confirmed one week or two weeks before the F2F meeting. The agenda was copied from Redmond meeting with little modification. I agree with  Ryan' and Peter's suggestion. It is time for Kirk to collet suggestion to arrange the new meeting agenda and update the Wiki.  

   As for Redmond's meeting, my topic about changing to browser UI for Subject DN of EV SSL Certificate has not yet be resolved. 

  It seems there is no further progress after I and Dimitris file a bug 

   As for suggestion to Microsft , it was post by Dimitris, thanks for him. Because that mail was in my office computer, it is National holiday in Tawian, If Dimitris read the mail, please tell us the status.

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From:Ryan Sleevi via Public<public at cabforum.org>
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 04:48:43
Subject: [外部郵件] Re: [cabfpub] Draft Agenda for F2F meeting Research Triangle Park, NC - March 21-23

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Peter Bowen via Public <public at cabforum.org> wrote:

It looks like Day 2 is mostly copied from the Redmond F2F agenda.  I don’t have an intention of repeating the topics I lead previously unless there are new things to cover.


Indeed, I was just about to suggest that for several of the other (non-Peter) topics, unless there's something new to cover - and ideally, discussed on the list prior - we shouldn't schedule those items either.

I also note that Day 1 limits the discussion of "Future Thoughts" to 45 minutes, although I would suggest and suspect that this is a line of discussion that might easily occupy an hour and a half, if not more, as members work through understanding the various goals of the suggestions, and then try to map out possible paths towards those goals by articulating concerns and constraints that they may have.

If I might, borrowing from an "unconference" like approach, might I suggest that Day 1 gather the "Future Thoughts" as scheduled, and have a (brief) discussion and presentation of those future thoughts (also as scheduled), but we make use of time of Day 2 to actually explore and articulate how to get there. This would allow time for members to socialize and understand the items raised on Day 1, and then come back on Day 2 with a better sense of concerns and directions. I suspect this will allow us a much more productive discussion and figuring out next steps.

Alternatively, we could consider gathering those discussion items now, prior to the meeting. Day 1 can include a summary of the items and themes and allow time for basic clarification, and then we can dedicate several discussion slots on Day 2 to explore those items identified as either controversial or as shared interest, so that we can more rapidly make progress. This might make it more productive then, say, if I were to request several agenda slots for what Google considers as high importance and future direction.

Another agenda item I might suggest, and I'm happy to be the 'discussion leader' because of it, is the question about the role and relationship of the Forum. Judging by the reactions to Ballot 185, and from various questions that have come in on the questions@ list which have sparked debate, perhaps it's worth revisiting how different members see the role and scope of the Forum, so that we can better understand each other's objectives and needs.

There also appears to be one or two agenda items previously discussed, but missing. One was a retrospective discussion about the SHA-1 deprecation, with input from various Browsers, to help capture and crystalize the challenges and to examine some of the lessons learned from the SHA-1 exception process. Another was more targeted towards the technical members of the Forum, which is related to workflow management (GitHub, production of PDFs, etc), with the goal of making it less onerous on Ben to manage that. I realize that the Forum has historically conducted a 'single track' meeting schedule, there may be opportunity during the WG day to run that exploration in parallel, if there's space available. My instinct is that there may be sufficient non-overlap in members as the Governance discussions, but as the agenda for Day 2 shapes out, there may be an opportunity there instead.

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