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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Hmmm. That’s an unintended consequence, for sure! I added CKEditor in an attempt to have a GUI editor present for those that preferred editing in that mode instead of plain source code. If it’s going to cause problems, though, it’s not worth it. I’ll disable it for now and see if anyone yelps about it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>-- <br>Jos Purvis (<a href="mailto:jopurvis@cisco.com"><span style='color:#954F72'>jopurvis@cisco.com</span></a>)<br>.:|:.:|:. cisco systems | Cryptographic Services<br>PGP: 0xFD802FEE07D19105 | +1 919.991.9114 (desk)</span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Infrastructure <infrastructure-bounces@cabforum.org> on behalf of Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 4:31 AM<br><b>To: </b>"infrastructure@cabforum.org" <infrastructure@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject: </b>[Infrastructure] Wiki and Markdown<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Recently, in preparing the CA/Browser Forum minutes, I ended up needing to spend nearly twenty minutes in the source editing view, just to try to correct some bad indentation introduced in a list by another author. The sample minutes this person included had multiple layers of invisible styling. For example, multiple nested spans setting the same font face, multiple nested unordered lists, hard line breaks, etc. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Even after the most recent F2F, I see multiple font styles and sizes being used in the minutes - no doubt coming from various authors pasting from their preferred text editor, and that new Dokuwiki preserving that syntax as best as possible by using the HTML version from the clipboard.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm worried that this is going to make the wiki harder, rather than easier, to maintain. Even 'simple' stuff like formatting a list of items should not take so long, and that it does, and is seemingly so easy to make the mistake, gives me pause.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I realize there's seemingly no maintained version for markdown, but it seems this hell is coming from CKEditor. Can we disable that for the Wiki? Was it intentional to enable this HTML-ized form, and not the 'simple' text editing?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>