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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>We need to have Server Certificate Working Group members or DigiCert and Entrust will be the only CABF members on July 3 . I think that we need to send out an email telling people how they become members of the Working Group. The Bylaws state, “[they must] have formally declared their participation in the CWG via the mechanism designated by the Forum prior to attending.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>But has the Forum designated the mechanism?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I was thinking members should be required to:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormalCxSpMiddle style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:105%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>email the public list (or alternatively email the WG chair and vice-chair) and formally declare their participation in the Server Certificate Working Group;<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormalCxSpMiddle style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:105%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>subscribe to the mailing list - <a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/servercert-wg">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/servercert-wg</a>; and <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormalCxSpMiddle style='margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:105%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>list their names here <a href="https://cabforum.org/wiki/Server%20Certificate%20Working%20Group">https://cabforum.org/wiki/Server%20Certificate%20Working%20Group</a> as follows: <o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The following have formally declared their participation in the Server Certificate Working Group: <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=5 cellpadding=0 style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt'><tr><td style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Name <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Date of Declaration <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Date of Withdrawal <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Digicert, Inc. <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>28 June 2018 <o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thoughts? Should I send this to the Management list and then follow up by sending this to the Public list?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ben<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tim Hollebeek <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 14, 2018 8:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com>; CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <govreform@cabforum.org>; Ben Wilson <ben.wilson@digicert.com><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabf_governance] Draft email on new Server Certificate Working Group for editing<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This is the point I raised at the end of the call. I think we may need to wait until July 3 to start transition actions, just so that it is clear that the new bylaws are in effect.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>However this does not prevent us from discussing what those actions are in advance, so that we can proceed rapidly with them at the appropriate time. This could include having a draft ballot of the election procedures that could be submitted as SCWG Ballot 1.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-Tim<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:5.4pt'>I agree that the SCWG itself exists now, and you and I are Vice Chair and Chair, but we have no enumerated powers to start anything until July 3 – so maybe we rephrase the message that way, and again do nothing until July 3.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>