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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, Virginia.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dean,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As much as I like Jos, I don’t want to talk to just him, so maybe we need to re-schedule? Can we have a call some other time this week? If not, next week? I suppose it would help if I framed the issues more.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ben<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> vfournier@apple.com <vfournier@apple.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 25, 2018 4:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> Dean Coclin <dean.coclin@digicert.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Ben Wilson <ben.wilson@digicert.com>; CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <govreform@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_governance] CABF Governance Reform WG<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi - I’d like to have input into those items as well, so please don’t consider anything final.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Virginia Fournier<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Senior Standards Counsel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#717171'></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> Apple Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif;color:black'>☏</span><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>669-227-9595<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:black'>✉</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Zapf Dingbats",serif;color:black'>︎</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:vmf@apple.com">vmf@apple.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0433FF'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#579DFF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 25, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Dean Coclin <<a href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com">dean.coclin@digicert.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes, that makes sense. But since Virginia and I can’t join, I guess that leaves you and Jos, unless others can join?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Ben Wilson<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, June 25, 2018 4:43 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Dean Coclin <<a href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com">dean.coclin@digicert.com</a>>; CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <<a href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org">govreform@cabforum.org</a>>; Virginia Fournier <<a href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com">vfournier@apple.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [cabf_governance] CABF Governance Reform WG<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I think we need to address items raised during the face-to-face.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com"><span style='color:purple'>vfournier@apple.com</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><<a href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com"><span style='color:purple'>vfournier@apple.com</span></a>> on behalf of Virginia Fournier <<a href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com"><span style='color:purple'>vfournier@apple.com</span></a>><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, June 25, 2018 1:35:10 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Dean Coclin; CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Ben Wilson<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [cabf_governance] CABF Governance Reform WG<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have a conflict as well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Virginia Fournier</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Senior Standards Counsel</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#717171'></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> Apple Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif'>☏</span><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>669-227-9595</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif'>✉︎</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:vmf@apple.com"><span style='color:purple'>vmf@apple.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#579DFF'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 25, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Dean Coclin via Govreform <<a href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"><span style='color:purple'>govreform@cabforum.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<br>I won’t be able to join this call tomorrow.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ben-can you lead it or do we even need to have it?<br><br>Dean<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----Original Appointment-----<br><b>From:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Ben Wilson [<a href="mailto:ben.wilson@digicert.com"><span style='color:#954F72'>mailto:ben.wilson@digicert.com</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, November 16, 2017 10:46 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Ben Wilson; Dean J Coclin; Kirk Hall (<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com"><span style='color:#954F72'>Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</span></a>)<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>CABF Governance Reform WG<br><b>When:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:00 AM-12:00 PM (UTC-07:00) Mountain Time (US & Canada).<br><b>Where:</b><span 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