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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/2/2018 8:32 μμ, Virginia Fournier
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      Ok - can I see it please?<br class="">
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    Sure. The latest file is "CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_23-Jan-2018.doc".<br>
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    In Section 1.1, replace "Section 2.1(c) below" with "Section 2.1a(3)
    below".<br>
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    Under 2.1 (a) (1), replace "ETSI EN 319 411-1 or ETSI TS 102 042 or
    ETSI TS 101 456" with "ETSI EN 319 401"<br>
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    Under 2.1 (a) (2), replace "ETSI EN 319 411-1 or ETSI TS 102 042 or
    ETSI TS 101 456" with "ETSI EN 319 401"<br>
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    Dimitris.<br>
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        <div class="">On Feb 7, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Dean Coclin <<a
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              font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We got it and
              reviewed on our call this week.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                    class="">From:</b><span
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                  <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday,
                  February 7, 2018 1:20 PM<br class="">
                  <b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dimitris
                  Zacharopoulos <<a href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
                    class="" moz-do-not-send="true">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>><br
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                  <b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tim
                  Hollebeek <<a
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                    moz-do-not-send="true">tim.hollebeek@digicert.com</a>>;
                  CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <<a
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                    moz-do-not-send="true">govreform@cabforum.org</a>>;
                  Dean Coclin <<a
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                  <b class="">Subject:</b><span
                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                  [cabf_governance] Ballot 206 and documents<o:p
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                receive the attachment - for some reason the attachments
                get stripped when I get emails from the CAB Forum lists.
                 Would you please paste the changed language into an
                email and send to me directly so I get it?  Thanks very
                much.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                            class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                            class="">Virginia Fournier<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Feb
                    6, 2018, at 11:05 PM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a
                      href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr" style="color:
                      purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""
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                      sans-serif;">Hi Virginia,<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      Ben circulated on Jan 23rd a revised Server
                      Certificate WG Charter that takes care of the
                      WebTrust - ETSI alignment, so we're good there.<br
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                      The Bylaws diff that takes care of the WebTrust -
                      ETSI alignment, is included in a word attachment I
                      sent yesterday (also correcting a wrong reference
                      at the beginning of the document). Please let me
                      know if you need anything else.<br class="">
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                      The only question is if the WG wants to further
                      discuss the "loop" problem. With the current
                      language, you can't start a WG without a
                      "Certificate Consumer"<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
                        class="">as a member</b>.<br class="">
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                      Dimitris.<br class="">
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                        class="">On 7/2/2018 12:00 πμ, Virginia Fournier
                        wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                        class="">Hi Tim and Dimitris,<span
                          class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                          class=""></o:p></div>
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                          class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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                          class="">Ok, it sounds like we have consensus
                          on what we need to have in the Bylaws and the
                          Server Certificate WG.  Would you please send
                          us an email clearly indicating what needs to
                          be changed?  Please note that redlines don’t
                          come through in this format, so maybe you
                          could provide something like:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                          class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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                          class="">In Section 2.x, change “the red fox
                          ran fast” to “the red hen ran away.”<o:p
                            class=""></o:p></div>
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                          class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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                          class="">Otherwise, a diff file would be
                          helpful as well.  Thanks!<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                          class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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                          class="">Thanks very much! <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                    style="font-size: 9pt; font-family:
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                                      class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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                                    <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                      style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                      font-family: Helvetica,
                                      sans-serif;" class="">Best
                                      regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                    Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span
                                      style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                      font-family: Helvetica,
                                      sans-serif;" class=""><o:p
                                        class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                                      style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                      font-family: Helvetica,
                                      sans-serif;" class="">Virginia
                                      Fournier<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                      style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                      font-family: Helvetica,
                                      sans-serif;" class="">Senior
                                      Standards Counsel<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                      style="font-size: 10.5pt;
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                                      Pro"; color: rgb(94, 94,
                                      94);" class=""></span><span
                                      style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                      font-family: Helvetica,
                                      sans-serif;" class=""> Apple Inc.<o:p
                                        class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                      style="font-size: 10.5pt;
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                                      class="">☏</span><span
                                      style="font-size: 10.5pt;
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                                      sans-serif;" class=""><span
                                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>669-227-9595<o:p
                                        class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                      style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                      font-family: "Segoe UI
                                      Symbol", sans-serif; color:
                                      rgb(71, 135, 255);" class="">✉︎</span><span
                                      style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                      font-family: Helvetica,
                                      sans-serif; color: rgb(71, 135,
                                      255);" class=""> <a
                                        href="mailto:vmf@apple.com"
                                        style="color: purple;
                                        text-decoration: underline;"
                                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true">vmf@apple.com</a><o:p
                                        class=""></o:p></span></div>
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                                      class=""><span style="font-size:
                                        9pt; font-family: Helvetica,
                                        sans-serif;" class=""><o:p
                                          class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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                                      class=""><span style="font-size:
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                                        sans-serif;" class=""><o:p
                                          class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                              sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in
                            12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                            sans-serif;"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p>
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                        <div class="">
                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                            sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
                          <div class="">
                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                              font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                              sans-serif;" class="">On Feb 6, 2018, at
                              11:51 AM, Tim Hollebeek via Govreform <<a
                                href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
                                style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                                underline;" class=""
                                moz-do-not-send="true">govreform@cabforum.org</a>>
                              wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                          </div>
                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                            font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                            sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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                                class="">That sounds right to me.<o:p
                                  class=""></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                sans-serif; background-color: white;"
                                class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                              <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                sans-serif; background-color: white;"
                                class="">-Tim<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                      background-color: white;" class=""><b
                                        class="">From:</b><span
                                        class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dimitris
                                      Zacharopoulos [<a
                                        href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
                                        style="color: purple;
                                        text-decoration: underline;"
                                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>]<span
                                        class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                        class="">
                                      <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                                        class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday,
                                      February 6, 2018 12:50 PM<br
                                        class="">
                                      <b class="">To:</b><span
                                        class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tim
                                      Hollebeek <<a
                                        href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com"
                                        style="color: purple;
                                        text-decoration: underline;"
                                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true">tim.hollebeek@digicert.com</a>>;
                                      CA/Browser Forum Governance WG
                                      List <<a
                                        href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
                                        style="color: purple;
                                        text-decoration: underline;"
                                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true">govreform@cabforum.org</a>>;
                                      Dean Coclin <<a
                                        href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com"
                                        style="color: purple;
                                        text-decoration: underline;"
                                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dean.coclin@digicert.com</a>><br
                                        class="">
                                      <b class="">Subject:</b><span
                                        class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                                      [cabf_governance] Ballot 206 and
                                      documents<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                              </div>
                              <div class="">
                                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                  font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif; background-color: white;"
                                  class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                              </div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
                                0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                Calibri, sans-serif; background-color:
                                white; background-position: initial
                                initial; background-repeat: initial
                                initial;">Certainly for the Server
                                Working Group. But how about the new
                                general Bylaws or a new WG around
                                S/MIME? We've said numerous times that
                                the Baseline Requirements apply only to
                                SSL/TLS Certificates and so do the
                                WebTrust for CAs Baseline + NetSec.<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                I recommend adding both. 1 should apply
                                to the new Server Certificate WG and 2
                                should apply to the new general Bylaws.<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                Dimitris.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                              <div class="">
                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class="">On
                                    6/2/2018 9:39 μμ, Tim Hollebeek
                                    wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                              </div>
                              <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt;
                                margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="">
                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class="">Ok,
                                    I think I get it.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                </div>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
                                      class=""></o:p></div>
                                </div>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class="">We
                                    should either:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                </div>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
                                      class=""></o:p></div>
                                </div>
                                <ol start="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in;
                                  margin-top: 0in;" class="" type="1">
                                  <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:
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                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;
                                    background-position: initial
                                    initial; background-repeat: initial
                                    initial;">upgrade the WebTrust
                                    requirement to “WebTrust for CAs
                                    Baseline and NetSec” in order to
                                    align with requiring 411-1, or<o:p
                                      class=""></o:p></li>
                                  <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:
                                    0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;
                                    background-position: initial
                                    initial; background-repeat: initial
                                    initial;">downgrade the ETSI
                                    requirement to 401 to align with
                                    requiring “WebTrust for CAs”.<o:p
                                      class=""></o:p></li>
                                </ol>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
                                      class=""></o:p></div>
                                </div>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class="">Is
                                    that the right summary?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                </div>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
                                      class=""></o:p></div>
                                </div>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class="">In
                                    this day and age, I think (1) is the
                                    right approach.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                </div>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
                                      class=""></o:p></div>
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                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class="">-Tim<o:p
                                      class=""></o:p></div>
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                                <div class="">
                                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
                                    font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                    Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
                                      class=""></o:p></div>
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                                    <div style="border-style: solid none
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                                      class="">
                                      <div class="">
                                        <div style="margin: 0in 0in
                                          0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
                                          font-family: Calibri,
                                          sans-serif; background-color:
                                          white;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dimitris Zacharopoulos [<a
                                            href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
                                            style="color: purple;
                                            text-decoration: underline;"
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                                              style="color: purple;"
                                              class="">mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr</span></a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
                                          <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                                            class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday,
                                          February 6, 2018 12:25 PM<br
                                            class="">
                                          <b class="">To:</b><span
                                            class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tim
                                          Hollebeek<span
                                            class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com" style="color: purple;
                                            text-decoration: underline;"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                              style="color: purple;"
                                              class=""><tim.hollebeek@digicert.com></span></a>;
                                          CA/Browser Forum Governance WG
                                          List<span
                                            class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org" style="color: purple;
                                            text-decoration: underline;"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                              style="color: purple;"
                                              class=""><govreform@cabforum.org></span></a>;
                                          Dean Coclin<span
                                            class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com" style="color: purple;
                                            text-decoration: underline;"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                              style="color: purple;"
                                              class=""><dean.coclin@digicert.com></span></a><br
                                            class="">
                                          <b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206
                                          and documents<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                        sans-serif; background-color:
                                        white;" class="">On 6/2/2018
                                        9:17 μμ, Tim Hollebeek wrote:<o:p
                                          class=""></o:p></div>
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                                    <div class="">
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                                        sans-serif; background-color:
                                        white;" class="">For those of us
                                        who have historically tried hard
                                        not to understand European
                                        regulations, but probably should
                                        understand them better than we
                                        do, is one a superset of the
                                        other, and if so, in which
                                        direction?  If not, what does
                                        the Venn diagram look like?<o:p
                                          class=""></o:p></div>
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                                      ETSI EN 319 401 is the first level
                                      and 411 (part 1) is built on top
                                      of 401. Here is a diagram
                                      available from the document ETSI
                                      TR 119 400 (<a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/2rg4jdXEPgpG0cVYXn_7B2jFMYhRbjZ1dDZ93zj7UIU=?d=Q-_kHzd0gf5QWQHtRHrPGfKdJo-f3eGryq7gLFMOP2nmmUSSN0U7d-mlnvjACjvkLYiE5YSQEMOLG71tO_RXchqmCncqIIcrFDtBeLZUAlZrHYS8NABgkLo9xeRneXrt67GFWsXpg4qrHaH2i1WE2nD-PJw6kFVRieKZGqfvwVIHbZc847hmNDYYX1OK-hZ2RJn83ueD16yLldoF5f-b26oVHL9YP3qAYqDB1DBj5oHF-Q438yRy8rGuXF2HtuTqmKwbBBcXk0PC1tLRGSErqip7OX_iU04gunrmBr-tIKOBZoFGECMHVRiWmRxQB1S5rVsr5AWiz9-5775yk-JIHODdvIp7ftjTJD56OOQ9yrXrU-QwbxLq6ktF8tL8RuOpgVEfSg%3D%3D&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.etsi.org%2Fdeliver%2Fetsi_tr%2F119400_119499%2F119400%2F01.01.01_60%2Ftr_119400v010101p.pdf"
                                        style="color: purple;
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                                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                          style="color: purple;"
                                          class="">http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/119400_119499/119400/01.01.01_60/tr_119400v010101p.pdf</span></a>)<br
                                        class="">
                                      <br class="">
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                                      I hope it is clearer now.<br
                                        class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      Dimitris.<br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                    <div class="">
                                      <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                          class=""></o:p></div>
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                                              class=""><b class="">From:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Govreform [<a
                                                href="mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org"
                                                style="color: purple;
                                                text-decoration:
                                                underline;" class=""
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                                  style="color: purple;"
                                                  class="">mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org</span></a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span
                                                  class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dimitris
                                              Zacharopoulos via
                                              Govreform<br class="">
                                              <b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:10 PM<br
                                                class="">
                                              <b class="">To:</b><span
                                                class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dean
                                              Coclin<span
                                                class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com" style="color: purple;
                                                text-decoration:
                                                underline;" class=""
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                                  style="color: purple;"
                                                  class=""><dean.coclin@digicert.com></span></a>;
                                              CA/Browser Forum
                                              Governance WG List<span
                                                class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org" style="color: purple;
                                                text-decoration:
                                                underline;" class=""
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                                  style="color: purple;"
                                                  class=""><govreform@cabforum.org></span></a><br
                                                class="">
                                              <b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206
                                              and documents<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                          </div>
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                                      <div class="">
                                        <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                            class=""></o:p></div>
                                      </div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt;
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                                      <div class="">
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                                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                            class="">On 6/2/2018 9:02
                                            μμ, Dean Coclin wrote:<o:p
                                              class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <blockquote style="margin-top:
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                                        class="">
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                                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                            class="">I’m still confused.
                                            The requirements from
                                            browsers is 411-1.<o:p
                                              class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
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                                      <div class="">
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                                          But the new Bylaws are not
                                          only for Browsers :-)<br
                                            class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          The Server Certificates WG
                                          will require ETSI EN 319 411-1
                                          BUT IT SHOULD ALSO require not
                                          just WebTrust for CAs but also
                                          WebTrust for CAs Baseline and
                                          NetSec.<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          Dimitris.<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                      </div>
                                      <blockquote style="margin-top:
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                                            class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                  class="">From:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dimitris Zacharopoulos [<a
                                                  href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
                                                  style="color: purple;
                                                  text-decoration:
                                                  underline;" class=""
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                                    style="color:
                                                    purple;" class="">mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr</span></a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
                                                <b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:01 PM<br
                                                  class="">
                                                <b class="">To:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dean Coclin<span
                                                  class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com" style="color: purple;
                                                  text-decoration:
                                                  underline;" class=""
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                                    style="color:
                                                    purple;" class=""><dean.coclin@digicert.com></span></a>;
                                                CA/Browser Forum
                                                Governance WG List<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                                  href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
                                                  style="color: purple;
                                                  text-decoration:
                                                  underline;" class=""
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                                    style="color:
                                                    purple;" class=""><govreform@cabforum.org></span></a><br
                                                  class="">
                                                <b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206
                                                and documents<o:p
                                                  class=""></o:p></div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                            class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                            class=""></o:p></p>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div class="">
                                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                              class="">On 6/2/2018 8:15
                                              μμ, Dean Coclin wrote:<o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote style="margin-top:
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                                          class="">
                                          <div class="">
                                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                              class="">Dimitris,<o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div class="">
                                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                              class="">We currently list
                                              ETSI 411-1. Why should we
                                              change to 401?<o:p
                                                class=""></o:p></div>
                                          </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <div class="">
                                          <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                            class=""><br class="">
                                            411-1 covers Baseline
                                            Requirements and Network
                                            Security Requirements, which
                                            is equal to WebTrust for CAs
                                            Baseline and NetSec.<br
                                              class="">
                                            401 covers similar items as
                                            WebTrust for CAs.<br
                                              class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            Dimitris.<br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote style="margin-top:
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                                          class="">
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                                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                              class=""><br class="">
                                              Dean<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div class="">
                                            <div style="margin: 0in 0in
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                                              class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                              <div class="">
                                                <div style="margin: 0in
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                                                  sans-serif;
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                                                  white;" class=""><b
                                                    class="">From:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Govreform [<a
                                                    href="mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org"
                                                    style="color:
                                                    purple;
                                                    text-decoration:
                                                    underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color: purple;" class="">mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org</span></a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span
                                                      class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dimitris
                                                  Zacharopoulos via
                                                  Govreform<br class="">
                                                  <b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:16 PM<br
                                                    class="">
                                                  <b class="">To:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Virginia Fournier<span
                                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration:
                                                    underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color: purple;" class=""><vfournier@apple.com></span></a><br
                                                    class="">
                                                  <b class="">Cc:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>CA/Browser Forum Governance WG
                                                  List<span
                                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org" style="color: purple;
                                                    text-decoration:
                                                    underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color: purple;" class=""><govreform@cabforum.org></span></a><br
                                                    class="">
                                                  <b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206
                                                  and documents<o:p
                                                    class=""></o:p></div>
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                                              class=""></o:p></p>
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                                              <div style="margin: 0in
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                                                6/2/2018 6:25 μμ,
                                                Virginia Fournier wrote:<o:p
                                                  class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                Dimitris,<span
                                                  class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                  class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                  you please let us know
                                                  what changes you’d
                                                  propose to resolve the
                                                  issues you’ve
                                                  mentioned below?  Your
                                                  changes weren’t left
                                                  out intentionally - we
                                                  probably just missed
                                                  your request. Thanks.<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                              Certainly. I have attached
                                              a red-lined version of the
                                              proposed changes on the
                                              "CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_23-Jan-2018.doc"
                                              file, to align the ETSI
                                              audit criteria with
                                              WebTrust. I also made a
                                              small reference correction
                                              to the "Certificate
                                              Consumer" definition.<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              However, I couldn't
                                              provide an easy language
                                              fix for the requirement
                                              2.1 a, and I hope the WG
                                              will be able to discuss on
                                              a future call. I will try
                                              to highlight the problem
                                              and propose some language
                                              to resolve the loop.<br
                                                class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              Here are the current
                                              definitions:<br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <u class=""><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                  class="">(1)
                                                  "Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="">: The member
                                                organization operates a
                                                certification authority
                                                that has a current and
                                                successful WebTrust for
                                                CAs audit or ETSI EN 319
                                                401 audit report
                                                prepared by a
                                                properly-qualified
                                                auditor, is a member of
                                                a Working Group, and
                                                that actively issues
                                                certificates to end
                                                entities, such
                                                certificates being
                                                treated as valid by a
                                                Certificate Consumer
                                                Member.  Applicants that
                                                are not actively issuing
                                                certificates but
                                                otherwise meet
                                                membership criteria may
                                                be granted Associate
                                                Member status under
                                                Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a
                                                period of time to be
                                                designated by the Forum"</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <u class=""><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                  class="">(2)<span
                                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u>"<u
                                                class=""><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                  class="">Root
                                                  Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="">: The member
                                                organization operates a
                                                certification authority
                                                that has a current and
                                                successful WebTrust for
                                                CAs</span><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="" lang="EN">,</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family: Arial,
                                                  sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="">or ETSI EN 319
                                                401 audit report
                                                prepared by a
                                                properly-qualified
                                                auditor, is a member of
                                                a Working Group, and
                                                that issues certificates
                                                to subordinate CAs that,
                                                in turn, actively issue
                                                certificates to end
                                                entities such
                                                certificates being
                                                treated as valid by a
                                                Certificate Consumer
                                                Member</span><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="" lang="EN">.</span><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="">  Applicants
                                                that are not actively
                                                issuing certificates but
                                                otherwise meet
                                                membership criteria may
                                                be granted Associate
                                                Member status under
                                                Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a
                                                period of time to be
                                                designated by the Forum.
                                                "</span><span
                                                class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                                class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <u class=""><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                  class="">(3)<span
                                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u>"<u
                                                class=""><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                  class="">Certificate
                                                  Consumer</span></u><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="">: The member
                                                organization produces a
                                                software product, such
                                                as a browser, intended
                                                for use by the general
                                                public for relying upon
                                                certificates and is a
                                                member of a Working
                                                Group"</span><span
                                                class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                                class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              First of all, since 2.1
                                              talks about "qualifying
                                              for Forum Membership",
                                              which I understand to mean
                                              "Applicants", I propose we
                                              replace "member
                                              organization" to
                                              "applicant organization".
                                              In order to resolve the
                                              loop problem, perhaps the
                                              part of the "Certificate
                                              Consumer" definition that
                                              talks about software
                                              intended for use by the
                                              general public for relying
                                              upon certificates, should
                                              be included in the
                                              definitions of (1) and
                                              (2).<span
                                                class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                                class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              Here is a suggestion for
                                              these definitions:<br
                                                class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <u class=""><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                  class="">(1)
                                                  "Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="">: The applicant
                                                organization operates a
                                                certification authority
                                                that has a current and
                                                successful WebTrust for
                                                CAs audit or ETSI EN 319
                                                401 audit report
                                                prepared by a
                                                properly-qualified
                                                auditor, is a member of
                                                a Working Group, and
                                                that actively issues
                                                certificates to end
                                                entities, such
                                                certificates being
                                                treated as valid by a
                                                software product, such
                                                as a browser, intended
                                                for use by the general
                                                public for relying upon
                                                certificates. Applicants
                                                that are not actively
                                                issuing certificates but
                                                otherwise meet
                                                membership criteria may
                                                be granted Associate
                                                Member status under
                                                Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a
                                                period of time to be
                                                designated by the Forum"</span><br
                                                class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <u class=""><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                  class="">(2)<span
                                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u>"<u
                                                class=""><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                  class="">Root
                                                  Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="">: The applicant
                                                organization operates a
                                                certification authority
                                                that has a current and
                                                successful WebTrust for
                                                CAs</span><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="" lang="EN">,</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family: Arial,
                                                  sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="">or ETSI EN 319
                                                401 audit report
                                                prepared by a
                                                properly-qualified
                                                auditor, is a member of
                                                a Working Group, and
                                                that issues certificates
                                                to subordinate CAs that,
                                                in turn, actively issue
                                                certificates to end
                                                entities such
                                                certificates being
                                                treated as valid by a
                                                software product, such
                                                as a browser, intended
                                                for use by the general
                                                public for relying upon
                                                certificates</span><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="" lang="EN">.</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family: Arial,
                                                  sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="">Applicants that
                                                are not actively issuing
                                                certificates but
                                                otherwise meet
                                                membership criteria may
                                                be granted Associate
                                                Member status under
                                                Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a
                                                period of time to be
                                                designated by the Forum.
                                                "</span><br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <u class=""><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                  class="">(3)<span
                                                    class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u>"<u
                                                class=""><span
                                                  style="font-family:
                                                  Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                  class="">Certificate
                                                  Consumer</span></u><span
                                                style="font-family:
                                                Arial, sans-serif;"
                                                class="">: The applicant
                                                organization produces a
                                                software product, such
                                                as a browser, intended
                                                for use by the general
                                                public for relying upon
                                                certificates and is a
                                                member of a Working
                                                Group"</span><br
                                                class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              Thank you,<br class="">
                                              Dimitris.<br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                              <div class="">
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                                                    <div style="margin:
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                                                      Fournier<o:p
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                                                    from my iPhone<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                      excuse iTypos<o:p
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                                                  On Feb 6, 2018, at
                                                  12:14 AM, Dimitris
                                                  Zacharopoulos <<a
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                                                  wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                                                      Hello all,<br
                                                        class="">
                                                      <br class="">
                                                      I reviewed the
                                                      diffs and the
                                                      proposed alignment
                                                      between WebTrust
                                                      and ETSI is not
                                                      included in the
                                                      proposed Bylaws
                                                      draft (2.1a). I
                                                      sent a proposal on
                                                      Jan 9th (<a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/xRJEOuXg-y_jlF4bPlvzPYNhn8a6eit8kncIq_wfMZ8=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fpipermail%2Fgovreform%2F2018-January%2F000355.html"
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                                                          class="">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/govreform/2018-January/000355.html</span></a>)
                                                      about the Server
                                                      Certificate
                                                      Working Group
                                                      Charter but the
                                                      concept is the
                                                      same for the
                                                      Bylaws.<o:p
                                                        class=""></o:p></p>
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                                                        sans-serif;
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                                                        white;
                                                        background-position:
                                                        initial initial;
background-repeat: initial initial;">If we include the requirement for
                                                        "WebTrust for
                                                        CAs" audit, then
                                                        the equivalent
                                                        ETSI audit
                                                        should be "<b
                                                          class="">ETSI
                                                          EN 319 401</b>".
                                                        This probably
                                                        fits best for
                                                        the Bylaws.<o:p
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background-repeat: initial initial;">If we include the requirement for
                                                        "WebTrust for
                                                        CAs + WebTrust
                                                        Baseline +
                                                        NetSec " audit,
                                                        then the
                                                        equivalent ETSI
                                                        audit should be
                                                        "ETSI EN 319
                                                        411-1". This
                                                        probably fits
                                                        best for the
                                                        Server
                                                        Certificate
                                                        Working Group
                                                        Charter.<o:p
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                                                        old ETSI TS
                                                        standards should
                                                        not be included
                                                        in the new
                                                        bylaws.<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        I was also
                                                        puzzled with the
                                                        following
                                                        requirement in
                                                        the Bylaws
                                                        (section 2.1a)
                                                        "such
                                                        certificates
                                                        being treated as
                                                        valid by a
                                                        Certificate
                                                        Consumer<span
                                                          class="apple-converted-space"><b
                                                          class=""> </b></span><b
                                                          class="">Member</b>".
                                                        So, if a CA
                                                        issues
                                                        Certificates for
                                                        Digital
                                                        Signatures which
                                                        are trusted by
                                                        Adobe and Adobe
                                                        is not a Member
                                                        of the Forum,
                                                        then this CA
                                                        doesn't meet the
                                                        requirements. Is
                                                        this a correct
                                                        interpretation?<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        Best regards,<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        Dimitris.<br
                                                          class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        <br class="">
                                                        On 6/2/2018 9:15
                                                        πμ, Virginia
                                                        Fournier via
                                                        Govreform wrote:<o:p
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                                                          all,</span><o:p
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                                                          class="">My apologies,
                                                          I have a
                                                          conflict for
                                                          tomorrow’s
                                                          meeting and
                                                          will not be
                                                          able to
                                                          attend.  I am
                                                          sending what I
                                                          hope are
                                                          virtually
                                                          final versions
                                                          of the
                                                          documents.  I
                                                          am sending
                                                          diff files for
                                                          the Bylaws and
                                                          IPR policy, as
                                                          the Word
                                                          compare
                                                          function will
                                                          not cooperate.
                                                          The diffs may
                                                          be easier to
                                                          read in the
                                                          end anyway.<o:p
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                                                          class="">As
                                                          you may have
                                                          seen from my
                                                          email earlier
                                                          today, we have
                                                          to cut off any
                                                          new
                                                          issues, content,
                                                          etc. from
                                                          being added to
                                                          the ballot so
                                                          we can
                                                          finalize it.
                                                           From this
                                                          point forward,
                                                          we need to
                                                          just review
                                                          what we have,
                                                          clean up typos
                                                          or any errors
                                                          in the ballot,
                                                          and move it
                                                          forward.  With
                                                          this in mind,
                                                          I’d appreciate
                                                          it if you’d
                                                          review the
                                                          documents
                                                          attached/referenced
                                                          below to see
                                                          if there are
                                                          any
                                                          corrections/adjustments
                                                          that need to
                                                          be made.  We
                                                          can keep a
                                                          list of
                                                          additional
                                                          issues that should
                                                          be addressed
                                                          for the next
                                                          ballot.<o:p
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                                                          class="">What
                                                          is the status
                                                          of the Server
                                                          Certificate WG
                                                          charter?  I
                                                          sent some
                                                          comments to
                                                          Dean/Ben -
                                                          have you had
                                                          a chance to
                                                          look at those?
                                                           We
                                                          need the final
                                                          version of
                                                          that document
                                                          also to
                                                          complete the
                                                          package.<o:p
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                                                          class="">I’d
                                                          like to send
                                                          the documents
                                                          out early next
                                                          week and start
an “informal” discussion period of 7 days next for any questions people
                                                          may have.
                                                           Does anyone
                                                          see any
                                                          obstacles to
                                                          doing that?<o:p
                                                          class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          class="">Here’s
                                                          the diff for
                                                          the Bylaws
                                                          (all changes
                                                          since version
                                                          1.7 shown).<o:p
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style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Best
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style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Virginia
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                                                          class=""> Apple
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style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: "Segoe UI Symbol",
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                                                          class="">On
                                                          Dec 21, 2017,
                                                          at 11:19 AM,
                                                          Virginia
                                                          Fournier via
                                                          Govreform <<a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org" style="color: purple;
                                                          text-decoration:
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                                                          style="color:
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                                                          class="">govreform@cabforum.org</span></a>>
                                                          wrote:<o:p
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                                                          class="">Hello
                                                          all,<span
                                                          class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
                                                          class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          class="">Here
                                                          are the final
                                                          documents for
                                                          Ballot 206.
                                                           Please
                                                          confirm that
                                                          you’re ready
                                                          to go forward
                                                          with them in
                                                          January after
                                                          the holidays.
                                                           Please also
                                                          let me know if
                                                          you can open
                                                          the Bylaws
                                                          diff file.
                                                           What is the
                                                          status of the
                                                          Server
                                                          Certificate
                                                          WG’s charter?
                                                           Thanks for
                                                          everyone’s
                                                          hard work on
                                                          this project.<o:p
                                                          class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          class=""><CABF_Ballot206_20DEC17.docx><span
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                                                          class=""><CABF-Governance
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                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Best
                                                          regards,</span><o:p
                                                          class=""></o:p></div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Virginia
                                                          Fournier</span><o:p
                                                          class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                          background-color:
                                                          white;"
                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Senior
                                                          Standards
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                                                          class=""></o:p></div>
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style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""></span><span style="font-size:
                                                          10.5pt;
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                                                          Helvetica,
                                                          sans-serif;"
                                                          class=""> Apple
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                                                          class=""><span
style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: "Segoe UI Symbol",
                                                          sans-serif;"
                                                          class="">☏</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          Helvetica,
                                                          sans-serif;"
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