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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/2/2018 8:32 μμ, Virginia Fournier
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Ok - can I see it please?<br class="">
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Sure. The latest file is "CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_23-Jan-2018.doc".<br>
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In Section 1.1, replace "Section 2.1(c) below" with "Section 2.1a(3)
below".<br>
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Under 2.1 (a) (1), replace "ETSI EN 319 411-1 or ETSI TS 102 042 or
ETSI TS 101 456" with "ETSI EN 319 401"<br>
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Under 2.1 (a) (2), replace "ETSI EN 319 411-1 or ETSI TS 102 042 or
ETSI TS 101 456" with "ETSI EN 319 401"<br>
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Dimitris.<br>
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<div class="">On Feb 7, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Dean Coclin <<a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dean.coclin@digicert.com</a>>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We got it and
reviewed on our call this week.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dean<o:p
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name="_MailEndCompose" class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><o:p
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b
class="">From:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">vfournier@apple.com</a> [<a
href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:vfournier@apple.com</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday,
February 7, 2018 1:20 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dimitris
Zacharopoulos <<a href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tim
Hollebeek <<a
href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">tim.hollebeek@digicert.com</a>>;
CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <<a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">govreform@cabforum.org</a>>;
Dean Coclin <<a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dean.coclin@digicert.com</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[cabf_governance] Ballot 206 and documents<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi Dimitris,<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I did not
receive the attachment - for some reason the attachments
get stripped when I get emails from the CAB Forum lists.
Would you please paste the changed language into an
email and send to me directly so I get it? Thanks very
much.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Feb
6, 2018, at 11:05 PM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a
href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>>
wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;">Hi Virginia,<br class="">
<br class="">
Ben circulated on Jan 23rd a revised Server
Certificate WG Charter that takes care of the
WebTrust - ETSI alignment, so we're good there.<br
class="">
<br class="">
The Bylaws diff that takes care of the WebTrust -
ETSI alignment, is included in a word attachment I
sent yesterday (also correcting a wrong reference
at the beginning of the document). Please let me
know if you need anything else.<br class="">
<br class="">
The only question is if the WG wants to further
discuss the "loop" problem. With the current
language, you can't start a WG without a
"Certificate Consumer"<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">as a member</b>.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Dimitris.<br class="">
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11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
class="">On 7/2/2018 12:00 πμ, Virginia Fournier
wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
class="">Hi Tim and Dimitris,<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
class="">Ok, it sounds like we have consensus
on what we need to have in the Bylaws and the
Server Certificate WG. Would you please send
us an email clearly indicating what needs to
be changed? Please note that redlines don’t
come through in this format, so maybe you
could provide something like:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
class="">In Section 2.x, change “the red fox
ran fast” to “the red hen ran away.”<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
class="">Otherwise, a diff file would be
helpful as well. Thanks!<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
class="">Thanks very much! <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">On Feb 6, 2018, at
11:51 AM, Tim Hollebeek via Govreform <<a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">govreform@cabforum.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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sans-serif; background-color: white;"
class="">That sounds right to me.<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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sans-serif; background-color: white;"
class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; background-color: white;"
class="">-Tim<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
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sans-serif; background-color: white;"
class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class=""><b
class="">From:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dimitris
Zacharopoulos [<a
href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday,
February 6, 2018 12:50 PM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tim
Hollebeek <<a
href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">tim.hollebeek@digicert.com</a>>;
CA/Browser Forum Governance WG
List <<a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">govreform@cabforum.org</a>>;
Dean Coclin <<a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dean.coclin@digicert.com</a>><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[cabf_governance] Ballot 206 and
documents<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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sans-serif; background-color: white;"
class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in
0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; background-color:
white; background-position: initial
initial; background-repeat: initial
initial;">Certainly for the Server
Working Group. But how about the new
general Bylaws or a new WG around
S/MIME? We've said numerous times that
the Baseline Requirements apply only to
SSL/TLS Certificates and so do the
WebTrust for CAs Baseline + NetSec.<br
class="">
<br class="">
I recommend adding both. 1 should apply
to the new Server Certificate WG and 2
should apply to the new general Bylaws.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Dimitris.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class="">On
6/2/2018 9:39 μμ, Tim Hollebeek
wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt;
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class="">Ok,
I think I get it.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class="">We
should either:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<ol start="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in;
margin-top: 0in;" class="" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;
background-position: initial
initial; background-repeat: initial
initial;">upgrade the WebTrust
requirement to “WebTrust for CAs
Baseline and NetSec” in order to
align with requiring 411-1, or<o:p
class=""></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;
background-position: initial
initial; background-repeat: initial
initial;">downgrade the ETSI
requirement to 401 to align with
requiring “WebTrust for CAs”.<o:p
class=""></o:p></li>
</ol>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class="">Is
that the right summary?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class="">In
this day and age, I think (1) is the
right approach.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class="">-Tim<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
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0in 0in 4pt;" class="">
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<div style="border-style: solid none
none; border-top-width: 1pt;
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class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; background-color:
white;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dimitris Zacharopoulos [<a
href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color: purple;"
class="">mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr</span></a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday,
February 6, 2018 12:25 PM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tim
Hollebeek<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color: purple;"
class=""><tim.hollebeek@digicert.com></span></a>;
CA/Browser Forum Governance WG
List<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color: purple;"
class=""><govreform@cabforum.org></span></a>;
Dean Coclin<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color: purple;"
class=""><dean.coclin@digicert.com></span></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206
and documents<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:
0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;
background-position: initial
initial; background-repeat: initial
initial;"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; background-color:
white;" class="">On 6/2/2018
9:17 μμ, Tim Hollebeek wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt;
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; background-color:
white;" class="">For those of us
who have historically tried hard
not to understand European
regulations, but probably should
understand them better than we
do, is one a superset of the
other, and if so, in which
direction? If not, what does
the Venn diagram look like?<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;" class=""><br
class="">
ETSI EN 319 401 is the first level
and 411 (part 1) is built on top
of 401. Here is a diagram
available from the document ETSI
TR 119 400 (<a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/2rg4jdXEPgpG0cVYXn_7B2jFMYhRbjZ1dDZ93zj7UIU=?d=Q-_kHzd0gf5QWQHtRHrPGfKdJo-f3eGryq7gLFMOP2nmmUSSN0U7d-mlnvjACjvkLYiE5YSQEMOLG71tO_RXchqmCncqIIcrFDtBeLZUAlZrHYS8NABgkLo9xeRneXrt67GFWsXpg4qrHaH2i1WE2nD-PJw6kFVRieKZGqfvwVIHbZc847hmNDYYX1OK-hZ2RJn83ueD16yLldoF5f-b26oVHL9YP3qAYqDB1DBj5oHF-Q438yRy8rGuXF2HtuTqmKwbBBcXk0PC1tLRGSErqip7OX_iU04gunrmBr-tIKOBZoFGECMHVRiWmRxQB1S5rVsr5AWiz9-5775yk-JIHODdvIp7ftjTJD56OOQ9yrXrU-QwbxLq6ktF8tL8RuOpgVEfSg%3D%3D&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.etsi.org%2Fdeliver%2Fetsi_tr%2F119400_119499%2F119400%2F01.01.01_60%2Ftr_119400v010101p.pdf"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color: purple;"
class="">http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/119400_119499/119400/01.01.01_60/tr_119400v010101p.pdf</span></a>)<br
class="">
<br class="">
<image001.png><br class="">
<br class="">
I hope it is clearer now.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Dimitris.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt;
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; background-color:
white;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; background-color:
white;" class="">-Tim<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; background-color:
white;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div style="border-style: none none
none solid; border-left-width:
1.5pt; border-left-color: blue;
padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;"
class="">
<div class="">
<div style="border-style: solid
none none; border-top-width:
1pt; border-top-color:
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3pt 0in 0in;" class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class=""><b class="">From:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Govreform [<a
href="mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color: purple;"
class="">mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org</span></a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dimitris
Zacharopoulos via
Govreform<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:10 PM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dean
Coclin<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com" style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color: purple;"
class=""><dean.coclin@digicert.com></span></a>;
CA/Browser Forum
Governance WG List<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org" style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color: purple;"
class=""><govreform@cabforum.org></span></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206
and documents<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; background-color:
white;" class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt;
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background-color: white;
background-position: initial
initial; background-repeat:
initial initial;"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class="">On 6/2/2018 9:02
μμ, Dean Coclin wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"
class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class="">I’m still confused.
The requirements from
browsers is 411-1.<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; background-color:
white;" class=""><br class="">
But the new Bylaws are not
only for Browsers :-)<br
class="">
<br class="">
The Server Certificates WG
will require ETSI EN 319 411-1
BUT IT SHOULD ALSO require not
just WebTrust for CAs but also
WebTrust for CAs Baseline and
NetSec.<br class="">
<br class="">
Dimitris.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"
class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="border-style:
solid none none;
border-top-width: 1pt;
border-top-color: rgb(225,
225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in
0in;" class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color:
white;" class=""><b
class="">From:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dimitris Zacharopoulos [<a
href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:
purple;" class="">mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr</span></a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:01 PM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Dean Coclin<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com" style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:
purple;" class=""><dean.coclin@digicert.com></span></a>;
CA/Browser Forum
Governance WG List<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
style="color: purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:
purple;" class=""><govreform@cabforum.org></span></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206
and documents<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
background-color: white;
background-position: initial
initial; background-repeat:
initial initial;"> <o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class="">On 6/2/2018 8:15
μμ, Dean Coclin wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"
class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class="">Dimitris,<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class="">We currently list
ETSI 411-1. Why should we
change to 401?<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class=""><br class="">
411-1 covers Baseline
Requirements and Network
Security Requirements, which
is equal to WebTrust for CAs
Baseline and NetSec.<br
class="">
401 covers similar items as
WebTrust for CAs.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Dimitris.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"
class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class=""><br class="">
Dean<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color: white;"
class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="border-style:
solid none none;
border-top-width: 1pt;
border-top-color: rgb(225,
225, 225); padding: 3pt
0in 0in;" class="">
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in
0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color:
white;" class=""><b
class="">From:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Govreform [<a
href="mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org"
style="color:
purple;
text-decoration:
underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color: purple;" class="">mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org</span></a>]<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dimitris
Zacharopoulos via
Govreform<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:16 PM<br
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<b class="">To:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Virginia Fournier<span
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206
and documents<o:p
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6/2/2018 6:25 μμ,
Virginia Fournier wrote:<o:p
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<div style="margin: 0in
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Dimitris,<span
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<div style="margin: 0in
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font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color:
white;" class="">Would
you please let us know
what changes you’d
propose to resolve the
issues you’ve
mentioned below? Your
changes weren’t left
out intentionally - we
probably just missed
your request. Thanks.<span
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class=""><br class="">
Certainly. I have attached
a red-lined version of the
proposed changes on the
"CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_23-Jan-2018.doc"
file, to align the ETSI
audit criteria with
WebTrust. I also made a
small reference correction
to the "Certificate
Consumer" definition.<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<br class="">
However, I couldn't
provide an easy language
fix for the requirement
2.1 a, and I hope the WG
will be able to discuss on
a future call. I will try
to highlight the problem
and propose some language
to resolve the loop.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Here are the current
definitions:<br class="">
<br class="">
<u class=""><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">(1)
"Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">: The member
organization operates a
certification authority
that has a current and
successful WebTrust for
CAs audit or ETSI EN 319
401 audit report
prepared by a
properly-qualified
auditor, is a member of
a Working Group, and
that actively issues
certificates to end
entities, such
certificates being
treated as valid by a
Certificate Consumer
Member. Applicants that
are not actively issuing
certificates but
otherwise meet
membership criteria may
be granted Associate
Member status under
Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a
period of time to be
designated by the Forum"</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<br class="">
<u class=""><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">(2)<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u>"<u
class=""><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">Root
Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">: The member
organization operates a
certification authority
that has a current and
successful WebTrust for
CAs</span><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="" lang="EN">,</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">or ETSI EN 319
401 audit report
prepared by a
properly-qualified
auditor, is a member of
a Working Group, and
that issues certificates
to subordinate CAs that,
in turn, actively issue
certificates to end
entities such
certificates being
treated as valid by a
Certificate Consumer
Member</span><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="" lang="EN">.</span><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class=""> Applicants
that are not actively
issuing certificates but
otherwise meet
membership criteria may
be granted Associate
Member status under
Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a
period of time to be
designated by the Forum.
"</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<br class="">
<u class=""><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">(3)<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u>"<u
class=""><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">Certificate
Consumer</span></u><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">: The member
organization produces a
software product, such
as a browser, intended
for use by the general
public for relying upon
certificates and is a
member of a Working
Group"</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<br class="">
First of all, since 2.1
talks about "qualifying
for Forum Membership",
which I understand to mean
"Applicants", I propose we
replace "member
organization" to
"applicant organization".
In order to resolve the
loop problem, perhaps the
part of the "Certificate
Consumer" definition that
talks about software
intended for use by the
general public for relying
upon certificates, should
be included in the
definitions of (1) and
(2).<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<br class="">
Here is a suggestion for
these definitions:<br
class="">
<br class="">
<u class=""><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">(1)
"Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">: The applicant
organization operates a
certification authority
that has a current and
successful WebTrust for
CAs audit or ETSI EN 319
401 audit report
prepared by a
properly-qualified
auditor, is a member of
a Working Group, and
that actively issues
certificates to end
entities, such
certificates being
treated as valid by a
software product, such
as a browser, intended
for use by the general
public for relying upon
certificates. Applicants
that are not actively
issuing certificates but
otherwise meet
membership criteria may
be granted Associate
Member status under
Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a
period of time to be
designated by the Forum"</span><br
class="">
<br class="">
<u class=""><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">(2)<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u>"<u
class=""><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">Root
Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">: The applicant
organization operates a
certification authority
that has a current and
successful WebTrust for
CAs</span><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="" lang="EN">,</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">or ETSI EN 319
401 audit report
prepared by a
properly-qualified
auditor, is a member of
a Working Group, and
that issues certificates
to subordinate CAs that,
in turn, actively issue
certificates to end
entities such
certificates being
treated as valid by a
software product, such
as a browser, intended
for use by the general
public for relying upon
certificates</span><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="" lang="EN">.</span><span
class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class=""> </span></span><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">Applicants that
are not actively issuing
certificates but
otherwise meet
membership criteria may
be granted Associate
Member status under
Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a
period of time to be
designated by the Forum.
"</span><br class="">
<br class="">
<u class=""><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">(3)<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u>"<u
class=""><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">Certificate
Consumer</span></u><span
style="font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;"
class="">: The applicant
organization produces a
software product, such
as a browser, intended
for use by the general
public for relying upon
certificates and is a
member of a Working
Group"</span><br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Thank you,<br class="">
Dimitris.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
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<div style="margin:
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Fournier<o:p
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excuse iTypos<o:p
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On Feb 6, 2018, at
12:14 AM, Dimitris
Zacharopoulos <<a
href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
style="color:
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wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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Hello all,<br
class="">
<br class="">
I reviewed the
diffs and the
proposed alignment
between WebTrust
and ETSI is not
included in the
proposed Bylaws
draft (2.1a). I
sent a proposal on
Jan 9th (<a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/xRJEOuXg-y_jlF4bPlvzPYNhn8a6eit8kncIq_wfMZ8=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fpipermail%2Fgovreform%2F2018-January%2F000355.html"
style="color:
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underline;"
class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:
purple;"
class="">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/govreform/2018-January/000355.html</span></a>)
about the Server
Certificate
Working Group
Charter but the
concept is the
same for the
Bylaws.<o:p
class=""></o:p></p>
<ul
style="margin-bottom:
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type="disc">
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:
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white;
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initial initial;
background-repeat: initial initial;">If we include the requirement for
"WebTrust for
CAs" audit, then
the equivalent
ETSI audit
should be "<b
class="">ETSI
EN 319 401</b>".
This probably
fits best for
the Bylaws.<o:p
class=""></o:p></li>
<li
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin:
0in 0in
0.0001pt;
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font-family:
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sans-serif;
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white;
background-position:
initial initial;
background-repeat: initial initial;">If we include the requirement for
"WebTrust for
CAs + WebTrust
Baseline +
NetSec " audit,
then the
equivalent ETSI
audit should be
"ETSI EN 319
411-1". This
probably fits
best for the
Server
Certificate
Working Group
Charter.<o:p
class=""></o:p></li>
</ul>
<div class="">
<div
style="margin:
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font-family:
Calibri,
sans-serif;
background-color:
white;" class="">The
old ETSI TS
standards should
not be included
in the new
bylaws.<br
class="">
<br class="">
I was also
puzzled with the
following
requirement in
the Bylaws
(section 2.1a)
"such
certificates
being treated as
valid by a
Certificate
Consumer<span
class="apple-converted-space"><b
class=""> </b></span><b
class="">Member</b>".
So, if a CA
issues
Certificates for
Digital
Signatures which
are trusted by
Adobe and Adobe
is not a Member
of the Forum,
then this CA
doesn't meet the
requirements. Is
this a correct
interpretation?<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Best regards,<br
class="">
Dimitris.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
On 6/2/2018 9:15
πμ, Virginia
Fournier via
Govreform wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<blockquote
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<div class="">
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class=""><span
style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Hi
all,</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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class=""><span
style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div
style="margin:
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sans-serif;
background-color:
white;"
class="">My apologies,
I have a
conflict for
tomorrow’s
meeting and
will not be
able to
attend. I am
sending what I
hope are
virtually
final versions
of the
documents. I
am sending
diff files for
the Bylaws and
IPR policy, as
the Word
compare
function will
not cooperate.
The diffs may
be easier to
read in the
end anyway.<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div
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class=""><br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div
style="margin:
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sans-serif;
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white;"
class="">As
you may have
seen from my
email earlier
today, we have
to cut off any
new
issues, content,
etc. from
being added to
the ballot so
we can
finalize it.
From this
point forward,
we need to
just review
what we have,
clean up typos
or any errors
in the ballot,
and move it
forward. With
this in mind,
I’d appreciate
it if you’d
review the
documents
attached/referenced
below to see
if there are
any
corrections/adjustments
that need to
be made. We
can keep a
list of
additional
issues that should
be addressed
for the next
ballot.<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<div class="">
<div class="">
<div
style="margin:
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class=""><br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div
style="margin:
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11pt;
font-family:
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sans-serif;
background-color:
white;"
class="">What
is the status
of the Server
Certificate WG
charter? I
sent some
comments to
Dean/Ben -
have you had
a chance to
look at those?
We
need the final
version of
that document
also to
complete the
package.<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="">
<div
style="margin:
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class=""><br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div
style="margin:
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font-size:
11pt;
font-family:
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sans-serif;
background-color:
white;"
class="">I’d
like to send
the documents
out early next
week and start
an “informal” discussion period of 7 days next for any questions people
may have.
Does anyone
see any
obstacles to
doing that?<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
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<div
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sans-serif;
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class=""><br
class="">
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<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
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<div
style="margin:
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11pt;
font-family:
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sans-serif;
background-color:
white;"
class="">Here’s
the diff for
the Bylaws
(all changes
since version
1.7 shown).<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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