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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/2/2018 9:17 μμ, Tim Hollebeek
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">For those of
us who have historically tried hard not to understand
European regulations, but probably should understand them
better than we do, is one a superset of the other, and if
so, in which direction? If not, what does the Venn diagram
look like?</span></p>
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ETSI EN 319 401 is the first level and 411 (part 1) is built on top
of 401. Here is a diagram available from the document ETSI TR 119
400
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/119400_119499/119400/01.01.01_60/tr_119400v010101p.pdf">http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_tr/119400_119499/119400/01.01.01_60/tr_119400v010101p.pdf</a>)<br>
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<img src="cid:part1.2FD31805.F522AE9F@it.auth.gr" alt=""><br>
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I hope it is clearer now.<br>
<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">-Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> Govreform
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Govreform<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dean Coclin
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com"><dean.coclin@digicert.com></a>; CA/Browser Forum
Governance WG List <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"><govreform@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206 and
documents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/2/2018 9:02 μμ, Dean Coclin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I’m
still confused. The requirements from browsers is 411-1.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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But the new Bylaws are not only for Browsers :-)<br>
<br>
The Server Certificates WG will require ETSI EN 319 411-1
BUT IT SHOULD ALSO require not just WebTrust for CAs but
also WebTrust for CAs Baseline and NetSec.<br>
<br>
Dimitris.<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> Dimitris Zacharopoulos [<a
href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dean Coclin <a
href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><dean.coclin@digicert.com></a>;
CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><govreform@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206 and
documents</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/2/2018 8:15 μμ, Dean Coclin
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Dimitris,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">We
currently list ETSI 411-1. Why should we change to
401?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
411-1 covers Baseline Requirements and Network Security
Requirements, which is equal to WebTrust for CAs Baseline
and NetSec.<br>
401 covers similar items as WebTrust for CAs.<br>
<br>
Dimitris.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Dean</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> Govreform [<a
href="mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos via
Govreform<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Virginia Fournier <a
href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><vfournier@apple.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><govreform@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206
and documents</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/2/2018 6:25 μμ, Virginia
Fournier wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dimitris, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would you please let us know what
changes you’d propose to resolve the issues you’ve
mentioned below? Your changes weren’t left out
intentionally - we probably just missed your
request. Thanks. <o:p></o:p></p>
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Certainly. I have attached a red-lined version of the
proposed changes on the
"CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_23-Jan-2018.doc" file, to align the
ETSI audit criteria with WebTrust. I also made a small
reference correction to the "Certificate Consumer"
definition. <br>
<br>
However, I couldn't provide an easy language fix for the
requirement 2.1 a, and I hope the WG will be able to
discuss on a future call. I will try to highlight the
problem and propose some language to resolve the loop.<br>
<br>
Here are the current definitions:<br>
<br>
<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(1)
"Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
member organization operates a certification authority
that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs
audit or ETSI EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a
properly-qualified auditor, is a member of a Working
Group, and that actively issues certificates to end
entities, such certificates being treated as valid by
a Certificate Consumer Member. Applicants that are
not actively issuing certificates but otherwise meet
membership criteria may be granted Associate Member
status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to be
designated by the Forum"</span> <br>
<br>
<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(2)
</span></u>"<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Root
Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
member organization operates a certification authority
that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN">,</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> or
ETSI EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a
properly-qualified auditor, is a member of a Working
Group, and that issues certificates to subordinate CAs
that, in turn, actively issue certificates to end
entities such certificates being treated as valid by a
Certificate Consumer Member</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN">.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates
but otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted
Associate Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a
period of time to be designated by the Forum. "</span>
<br>
<br>
<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(3)
</span></u>"<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Certificate
Consumer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
member organization produces a software product, such
as a browser, intended for use by the general public
for relying upon certificates and is a member of a
Working Group"</span> <br>
<br>
First of all, since 2.1 talks about "qualifying for
Forum Membership", which I understand to mean
"Applicants", I propose we replace "member organization"
to "applicant organization". In order to resolve the
loop problem, perhaps the part of the "Certificate
Consumer" definition that talks about software intended
for use by the general public for relying upon
certificates, should be included in the definitions of
(1) and (2). <br>
<br>
Here is a suggestion for these definitions:<br>
<br>
<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(1)
"Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
applicant organization operates a certification
authority that has a current and successful WebTrust
for CAs audit or ETSI EN 319 401 audit report prepared
by a properly-qualified auditor, is a member of a
Working Group, and that actively issues certificates
to end entities, such certificates being treated as
valid by a software product, such as a browser,
intended for use by the general public for relying
upon certificates. Applicants that are not actively
issuing certificates but otherwise meet membership
criteria may be granted Associate Member status under
Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to be designated
by the Forum"</span><br>
<br>
<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(2)
</span></u>"<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Root
Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
applicant organization operates a certification
authority that has a current and successful WebTrust
for CAs</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN">,</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> or
ETSI EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a
properly-qualified auditor, is a member of a Working
Group, and that issues certificates to subordinate CAs
that, in turn, actively issue certificates to end
entities such certificates being treated as valid by a
software product, such as a browser, intended for use
by the general public for relying upon certificates</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="EN">.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates
but otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted
Associate Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a
period of time to be designated by the Forum. "</span><br>
<br>
<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(3)
</span></u>"<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Certificate
Consumer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
applicant organization produces a software product,
such as a browser, intended for use by the general
public for relying upon certificates and is a member
of a Working Group"</span><br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Virginia Fournier<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please excuse iTypos<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Feb 6, 2018, at 12:14 AM, Dimitris
Zacharopoulos <<a
href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
moz-do-not-send="true">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>>
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Hello all,<br>
<br>
I reviewed the diffs and the proposed
alignment between WebTrust and ETSI is not
included in the proposed Bylaws draft (2.1a).
I sent a proposal on Jan 9th (<a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/xRJEOuXg-y_jlF4bPlvzPYNhn8a6eit8kncIq_wfMZ8=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fpipermail%2Fgovreform%2F2018-January%2F000355.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/govreform/2018-January/000355.html</a>)
about the Server Certificate Working Group
Charter but the concept is the same for the
Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo3">If we include the requirement
for "WebTrust for CAs" audit, then the
equivalent ETSI audit should be "<b>ETSI EN
319 401</b>". This probably fits best for
the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo3">If we include the requirement
for "WebTrust for CAs + WebTrust Baseline +
NetSec " audit, then the equivalent ETSI
audit should be "ETSI EN 319 411-1". This
probably fits best for the Server
Certificate Working Group Charter.<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal">The old ETSI TS standards
should not be included in the new bylaws.<br>
<br>
I was also puzzled with the following
requirement in the Bylaws (section 2.1a) "such
certificates being treated as valid by a
Certificate Consumer<b> Member</b>". So, if a
CA issues Certificates for Digital Signatures
which are trusted by Adobe and Adobe is not a
Member of the Forum, then this CA doesn't meet
the requirements. Is this a correct
interpretation?<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/2/2018 9:15 πμ, Virginia Fournier via
Govreform wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My apologies, I
have a conflict for tomorrow’s meeting
and will not be able to attend. I am
sending what I hope are virtually
final versions of the documents. I am
sending diff files for the Bylaws and
IPR policy, as the Word compare
function will not cooperate. The diffs
may be easier to read in the end
anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As you may have
seen from my email earlier today, we
have to cut off any new
issues, content, etc. from being added
to the ballot so we can finalize it.
From this point forward, we need to
just review what we have, clean up
typos or any errors in the ballot, and
move it forward. With this in mind,
I’d appreciate it if you’d review the
documents attached/referenced below to
see if there are any
corrections/adjustments that need to
be made. We can keep a list of
additional issues that should be
addressed for the next ballot.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">What is the status
of the Server Certificate WG charter?
I sent some comments to Dean/Ben -
have you had a chance to look at
those? We need the final version of
that document also to complete the
package.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d like to send
the documents out early next week and
start an “informal” discussion period
of 7 days next for any questions
people may have. Does anyone see any
obstacles to doing that?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s the diff for
the Bylaws (all changes since version
1.7 shown).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/uyKpIpWVOanrzEuutNyKQlSALyoi3PkQHMormrBAvWs=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdraftable.com%2Fcompare%2FJHYFfXWaHGRx"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://draftable.com/compare/JHYFfXWaHGRx</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s the diff for
the IPR Policy (all changes since
version 1.2 shown:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/8q3XvGqohjM8pvFAj8n2TNaDAB0so_mrZcspY58oCLE=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdraftable.com%2Fcompare%2FQuHvYZiCAAUr"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://draftable.com/compare/QuHvYZiCAAUr</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Best
regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Virginia
Fournier</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Senior
Standards Counsel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt"></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> Apple
Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">
669-227-9595</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> <a
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 21, 2017, at
11:19 AM, Virginia Fournier via Govreform
<<a
href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">govreform@cabforum.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello all, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here are the final
documents for Ballot 206. Please
confirm that you’re ready to go
forward with them in January after the
holidays. Please also let me know if
you can open the Bylaws diff file.
What is the status of the Server
Certificate WG’s charter? Thanks for
everyone’s hard work on this project.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><CABF_Ballot206_20DEC17.docx>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-IPR-Policy-v.1.3_20DEC17_clean.doc>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-IPR-Policy-v.1.3_20DEC17_redline.doc>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_20DEC17_clean.doc>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-Governance
Change FAQ_20DEC17.docx> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><Bylaws DiffNow
Comparison Report.htm> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Best
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Virginia
Fournier</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Senior
Standards Counsel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt"></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> Apple
Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
UI
Symbol",sans-serif">☏</span><span
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669-227-9595</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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UI
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href="mailto:vmf@apple.com" moz-do-not-send="true">vmf@apple.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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