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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/2/2018 9:02 μμ, Dean Coclin wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I’m still
            confused. The requirements from browsers is 411-1.</span></p>
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    But the new Bylaws are not only for Browsers :-)<br>
    <br>
    The Server Certificates WG will require ETSI EN 319 411-1 BUT IT
    SHOULD ALSO require not just WebTrust for CAs but also WebTrust for
    CAs Baseline and NetSec.<br>
    <br>
    Dimitris.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:BL2PR14MB08991BB4EA24E38F886613A092FD0@BL2PR14MB0899.namprd14.prod.outlook.com">
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"
            moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                style="color:windowtext"> Dimitris Zacharopoulos
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr">mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:01 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Dean Coclin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dean.coclin@digicert.com"><dean.coclin@digicert.com></a>;
                CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"><govreform@cabforum.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206 and
                documents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/2/2018 8:15 μμ, Dean Coclin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Dimitris,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">We
              currently list ETSI 411-1. Why should we change to 401?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
          411-1 covers Baseline Requirements and Network Security
          Requirements, which is equal to WebTrust for CAs Baseline and
          NetSec.<br>
          401 covers similar items as WebTrust for CAs.<br>
          <br>
          Dimitris.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><br>
              Dean</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                  style="color:windowtext"> Govreform [<a
                    href="mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos via
                  Govreform<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:16 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Virginia Fournier <a
                    href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><vfournier@apple.com></a><br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <a
                    href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">
                    <govreform@cabforum.org></a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206 and
                  documents</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/2/2018 6:25 μμ, Virginia Fournier
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dimitris, <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Would you please let us know what
                changes you’d propose to resolve the issues you’ve
                mentioned below?  Your changes weren’t left out
                intentionally - we probably just missed your request.
                Thanks.
                <o:p></o:p></p>
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            Certainly. I have attached a red-lined version of the
            proposed changes on the "CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_23-Jan-2018.doc"
            file, to align the ETSI audit criteria with WebTrust. I also
            made a small reference correction to the "Certificate
            Consumer" definition.
            <br>
            <br>
            However, I couldn't provide an easy language fix for the
            requirement 2.1 a, and I hope the WG will be able to discuss
            on a future call. I will try to highlight the problem and
            propose some language to resolve the loop.<br>
            <br>
            Here are the current definitions:<br>
            <br>
            <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(1)
                "Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
              member organization operates a certification authority
              that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs audit
              or ETSI EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a
              properly-qualified auditor, is a member of a Working
              Group, and that actively issues certificates to end
              entities, such certificates being treated as valid by a
              Certificate Consumer Member.  Applicants that are not
              actively issuing certificates but otherwise meet
              membership criteria may be granted Associate Member status
              under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to be designated
              by the Forum"</span>
            <br>
            <br>
            <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(2)
              </span></u>"<u><span
                style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Root
                Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
              member organization operates a certification authority
              that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs</span><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">,</span><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> or ETSI
              EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a properly-qualified
              auditor, is a member of a Working Group, and that issues
              certificates to subordinate CAs that, in turn, actively
              issue certificates to end entities such certificates being
              treated as valid by a Certificate Consumer Member</span><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">.</span><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> 
              Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but
              otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted
              Associate Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period
              of time to be designated by the Forum. "</span>
            <br>
            <br>
            <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(3)
              </span></u>"<u><span
                style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Certificate
                Consumer</span></u><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
              member organization produces a software product, such as a
              browser, intended for use by the general public for
              relying upon certificates and is a member of a Working
              Group"</span>
            <br>
            <br>
            First of all, since 2.1 talks about "qualifying for Forum
            Membership", which I understand to mean "Applicants", I
            propose we replace "member organization" to "applicant
            organization". In order to resolve the loop problem, perhaps
            the part of the "Certificate Consumer" definition that talks
            about software intended for use by the general public for
            relying upon certificates, should be included in the
            definitions of (1) and (2).
            <br>
            <br>
            Here is a suggestion for these definitions:<br>
            <br>
            <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(1)
                "Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
              applicant organization operates a certification authority
              that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs audit
              or ETSI EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a
              properly-qualified auditor, is a member of a Working
              Group, and that actively issues certificates to end
              entities, such certificates being treated as valid by a
              software product, such as a browser, intended for use by
              the general public for relying upon certificates.
              Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but
              otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted
              Associate Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period
              of time to be designated by the Forum"</span><br>
            <br>
            <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(2)
              </span></u>"<u><span
                style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Root
                Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
              applicant organization operates a certification authority
              that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs</span><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">,</span><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> or ETSI
              EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a properly-qualified
              auditor, is a member of a Working Group, and that issues
              certificates to subordinate CAs that, in turn, actively
              issue certificates to end entities such certificates being
              treated as valid by a software product, such as a browser,
              intended for use by the general public for relying upon
              certificates</span><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">.</span><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
              Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but
              otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted
              Associate Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period
              of time to be designated by the Forum. "</span><br>
            <br>
            <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(3)
              </span></u>"<u><span
                style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Certificate
                Consumer</span></u><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
              applicant organization produces a software product, such
              as a browser, intended for use by the general public for
              relying upon certificates and is a member of a Working
              Group"</span><br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Thank you,<br>
            Dimitris.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Virginia Fournier<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Please excuse iTypos<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  On Feb 6, 2018, at 12:14 AM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos
                  <<a href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      Hello all,<br>
                      <br>
                      I reviewed the diffs and the proposed alignment
                      between WebTrust and ETSI is not included in the
                      proposed Bylaws draft (2.1a). I sent a proposal on
                      Jan 9th (<a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/xRJEOuXg-y_jlF4bPlvzPYNhn8a6eit8kncIq_wfMZ8=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fpipermail%2Fgovreform%2F2018-January%2F000355.html"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/govreform/2018-January/000355.html</a>)
                      about the Server Certificate Working Group Charter
                      but the concept is the same for the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <ul type="disc">
                      <li class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                        level1 lfo3">
                        If we include the requirement for "WebTrust for
                        CAs" audit, then the equivalent ETSI audit
                        should be "<b>ETSI EN 319 401</b>". This
                        probably fits best for the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></li>
                      <li class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
                        level1 lfo3">
                        If we include the requirement for "WebTrust for
                        CAs + WebTrust Baseline + NetSec " audit, then
                        the equivalent ETSI audit should be "ETSI EN 319
                        411-1". This probably fits best for the Server
                        Certificate Working Group Charter.<o:p></o:p></li>
                    </ul>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">The old ETSI TS standards
                      should not be included in the new bylaws.<br>
                      <br>
                      I was also puzzled with the following requirement
                      in the Bylaws (section 2.1a) "such certificates
                      being treated as valid by a Certificate Consumer<b>
                        Member</b>". So, if a CA issues Certificates for
                      Digital Signatures which are trusted by Adobe and
                      Adobe is not a Member of the Forum, then this CA
                      doesn't meet the requirements. Is this a correct
                      interpretation?<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Best regards,<br>
                      Dimitris.<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      On 6/2/2018 9:15 πμ, Virginia Fournier via
                      Govreform wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Hi
                                all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">My apologies, I have a
                              conflict for tomorrow’s meeting and will
                              not be able to attend.  I am sending what
                              I hope are virtually final versions of the
                              documents.  I am sending diff files for
                              the Bylaws and IPR policy, as the Word
                              compare function will not cooperate. The
                              diffs may be easier to read in the end
                              anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">As you may have seen
                              from my email earlier today, we have to
                              cut off any new issues, content, etc. from
                              being added to the ballot so we can
                              finalize it.  From this point forward, we
                              need to just review what we have, clean up
                              typos or any errors in the ballot, and
                              move it forward.  With this in mind, I’d
                              appreciate it if you’d review the
                              documents attached/referenced below to see
                              if there are any corrections/adjustments
                              that need to be made.  We can keep a list
                              of additional issues that should be
                              addressed for the next ballot.<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">What is the status of
                              the Server Certificate WG charter?  I sent
                              some comments to Dean/Ben - have you had
                              a chance to look at those?  We
                              need the final version of that document
                              also to complete the package.<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">I’d like to send the
                              documents out early next week and start
                              an “informal” discussion period of 7 days
                              next for any questions people may have.
                               Does anyone see any obstacles to doing
                              that?<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Here’s the diff for the
                              Bylaws (all changes since version 1.7
                              shown).<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/uyKpIpWVOanrzEuutNyKQlSALyoi3PkQHMormrBAvWs=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdraftable.com%2Fcompare%2FJHYFfXWaHGRx"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://draftable.com/compare/JHYFfXWaHGRx</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Here’s the diff for the
                              IPR Policy (all changes since version 1.2
                              shown:<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/8q3XvGqohjM8pvFAj8n2TNaDAB0so_mrZcspY58oCLE=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdraftable.com%2Fcompare%2FQuHvYZiCAAUr"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://draftable.com/compare/QuHvYZiCAAUr</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">=<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
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                      <br>
                      <o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><br>
                                <br>
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                              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Best
                                  regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Virginia
                                  Fournier</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Senior
                                  Standards Counsel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt"></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> Apple
                                  Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                                  UI Symbol ,sans-serif",serif">☏</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">
                                  669-227-9595</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                                  UI Symbol ,sans-serif",serif">✉︎</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> <a
                                    href="mailto:vmf@apple.com"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">vmf@apple.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:19
                          AM, Virginia Fournier via Govreform <<a
                            href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">govreform@cabforum.org</a>>
                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Hello all, <o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Here are the final
                              documents for Ballot 206.  Please confirm
                              that you’re ready to go forward with them
                              in January after the holidays.  Please
                              also let me know if you can open the
                              Bylaws diff file.  What is the status of
                              the Server Certificate WG’s charter?
                               Thanks for everyone’s hard work on this
                              project.<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><CABF_Ballot206_20DEC17.docx>
                          <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-IPR-Policy-v.1.3_20DEC17_clean.doc>
                          <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-IPR-Policy-v.1.3_20DEC17_redline.doc>
                          <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_20DEC17_clean.doc>
                          <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-Governance Change
                          FAQ_20DEC17.docx> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><Bylaws DiffNow
                          Comparison Report.htm> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><br>
                                        <br>
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                                      </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Best
                                          regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Virginia
                                          Fournier</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Senior
                                          Standards Counsel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:10.5pt"></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> Apple
                                          Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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