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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/2/2018 8:15 μμ, Dean Coclin wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Dimitris,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">We currently
            list ETSI 411-1. Why should we change to 401?<br>
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    411-1 covers Baseline Requirements and Network Security
    Requirements, which is equal to WebTrust for CAs Baseline and
    NetSec.<br>
    401 covers similar items as WebTrust for CAs.<br>
    <br>
    Dimitris.<br>
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            Dean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                style="color:windowtext"> Govreform
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos via
                Govreform<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:16 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Virginia Fournier <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com"><vfournier@apple.com></a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"><govreform@cabforum.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206 and
                documents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/2/2018 6:25 μμ, Virginia Fournier
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dimitris, <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Would you please let us know what
              changes you’d propose to resolve the issues you’ve
              mentioned below?  Your changes weren’t left out
              intentionally - we probably just missed your request.
              Thanks.
              <o:p></o:p></p>
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          Certainly. I have attached a red-lined version of the proposed
          changes on the "CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_23-Jan-2018.doc" file, to
          align the ETSI audit criteria with WebTrust. I also made a
          small reference correction to the "Certificate Consumer"
          definition.
          <br>
          <br>
          However, I couldn't provide an easy language fix for the
          requirement 2.1 a, and I hope the WG will be able to discuss
          on a future call. I will try to highlight the problem and
          propose some language to resolve the loop.<br>
          <br>
          Here are the current definitions:<br>
          <br>
          <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(1)
              "Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
            member organization operates a certification authority that
            has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs audit or ETSI
            EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a properly-qualified
            auditor, is a member of a Working Group, and that actively
            issues certificates to end entities, such certificates being
            treated as valid by a Certificate Consumer Member. 
            Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but
            otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted Associate
            Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to
            be designated by the Forum"</span>
          <br>
          <br>
          <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(2)
            </span></u>"<u><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Root
              Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
            member organization operates a certification authority that
            has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs</span><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">,</span><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> or ETSI EN
            319 401 audit report prepared by a properly-qualified
            auditor, is a member of a Working Group, and that issues
            certificates to subordinate CAs that, in turn, actively
            issue certificates to end entities such certificates being
            treated as valid by a Certificate Consumer Member</span><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">.</span><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> 
            Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but
            otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted Associate
            Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to
            be designated by the Forum. "</span>
          <br>
          <br>
          <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(3)
            </span></u>"<u><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Certificate
              Consumer</span></u><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
            member organization produces a software product, such as a
            browser, intended for use by the general public for relying
            upon certificates and is a member of a Working Group"</span>
          <br>
          <br>
          First of all, since 2.1 talks about "qualifying for Forum
          Membership", which I understand to mean "Applicants", I
          propose we replace "member organization" to "applicant
          organization". In order to resolve the loop problem, perhaps
          the part of the "Certificate Consumer" definition that talks
          about software intended for use by the general public for
          relying upon certificates, should be included in the
          definitions of (1) and (2).
          <br>
          <br>
          Here is a suggestion for these definitions:<br>
          <br>
          <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(1)
              "Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
            applicant organization operates a certification authority
            that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs audit or
            ETSI EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a
            properly-qualified auditor, is a member of a Working Group,
            and that actively issues certificates to end entities, such
            certificates being treated as valid by a software product,
            such as a browser, intended for use by the general public
            for relying upon certificates. Applicants that are not
            actively issuing certificates but otherwise meet membership
            criteria may be granted Associate Member status under Bylaw
            Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to be designated by the Forum"</span><br>
          <br>
          <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(2)
            </span></u>"<u><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Root
              Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
            applicant organization operates a certification authority
            that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs</span><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">,</span><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> or ETSI EN
            319 401 audit report prepared by a properly-qualified
            auditor, is a member of a Working Group, and that issues
            certificates to subordinate CAs that, in turn, actively
            issue certificates to end entities such certificates being
            treated as valid by a software product, such as a browser,
            intended for use by the general public for relying upon
            certificates</span><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">.</span><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> Applicants
            that are not actively issuing certificates but otherwise
            meet membership criteria may be granted Associate Member
            status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to be
            designated by the Forum. "</span><br>
          <br>
          <u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(3)
            </span></u>"<u><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Certificate
              Consumer</span></u><span
            style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
            applicant organization produces a software product, such as
            a browser, intended for use by the general public for
            relying upon certificates and is a member of a Working
            Group"</span><br>
          <br>
          <br>
          Thank you,<br>
          Dimitris.<br>
          <br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Virginia Fournier<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Please excuse iTypos<o:p></o:p></p>
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                On Feb 6, 2018, at 12:14 AM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a
                  href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr" moz-do-not-send="true">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>>
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    Hello all,<br>
                    <br>
                    I reviewed the diffs and the proposed alignment
                    between WebTrust and ETSI is not included in the
                    proposed Bylaws draft (2.1a). I sent a proposal on
                    Jan 9th (<a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/xRJEOuXg-y_jlF4bPlvzPYNhn8a6eit8kncIq_wfMZ8=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fpipermail%2Fgovreform%2F2018-January%2F000355.html"
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                    about the Server Certificate Working Group Charter
                    but the concept is the same for the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      If we include the requirement for "WebTrust for
                      CAs" audit, then the equivalent ETSI audit should
                      be "<b>ETSI EN 319 401</b>". This probably fits
                      best for the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></li>
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                      If we include the requirement for "WebTrust for
                      CAs + WebTrust Baseline + NetSec " audit, then the
                      equivalent ETSI audit should be "ETSI EN 319
                      411-1". This probably fits best for the Server
                      Certificate Working Group Charter.<o:p></o:p></li>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">The old ETSI TS standards should
                    not be included in the new bylaws.<br>
                    <br>
                    I was also puzzled with the following requirement in
                    the Bylaws (section 2.1a) "such certificates being
                    treated as valid by a Certificate Consumer<b> Member</b>".
                    So, if a CA issues Certificates for Digital
                    Signatures which are trusted by Adobe and Adobe is
                    not a Member of the Forum, then this CA doesn't meet
                    the requirements. Is this a correct interpretation?<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    Best regards,<br>
                    Dimitris.<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    On 6/2/2018 9:15 πμ, Virginia Fournier via Govreform
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Hi
                              all,</span><span
                              style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">My apologies, I have a
                            conflict for tomorrow’s meeting and will not
                            be able to attend.  I am sending what I hope
                            are virtually final versions of the
                            documents.  I am sending diff files for the
                            Bylaws and IPR policy, as the Word compare
                            function will not cooperate. The diffs may
                            be easier to read in the end anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">As you may have seen from
                            my email earlier today, we have to cut off
                            any new issues, content, etc. from being
                            added to the ballot so we can finalize it.
                             From this point forward, we need to just
                            review what we have, clean up typos or any
                            errors in the ballot, and move it forward.
                             With this in mind, I’d appreciate it if
                            you’d review the documents
                            attached/referenced below to see if there
                            are any corrections/adjustments that need to
                            be made.  We can keep a list of additional
                            issues that should be addressed for the next
                            ballot.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">What is the status of the
                            Server Certificate WG charter?  I sent some
                            comments to Dean/Ben - have you had
                            a chance to look at those?  We
                            need the final version of that document also
                            to complete the package.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <br>
                            <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">I’d like to send the
                            documents out early next week and start
                            an “informal” discussion period of 7 days
                            next for any questions people may have.
                             Does anyone see any obstacles to doing
                            that?<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Here’s the diff for the
                            Bylaws (all changes since version 1.7
                            shown).<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/uyKpIpWVOanrzEuutNyKQlSALyoi3PkQHMormrBAvWs=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdraftable.com%2Fcompare%2FJHYFfXWaHGRx"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://draftable.com/compare/JHYFfXWaHGRx</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Here’s the diff for the
                            IPR Policy (all changes since version 1.2
                            shown:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/8q3XvGqohjM8pvFAj8n2TNaDAB0so_mrZcspY58oCLE=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdraftable.com%2Fcompare%2FQuHvYZiCAAUr"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://draftable.com/compare/QuHvYZiCAAUr</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">=<br>
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                    <o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Best
                                regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Virginia
                                Fournier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Senior
                                Standards Counsel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Myriad
                                Set Pro",serif;color:#5E5E5E"></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> Apple
                                Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                                UI Symbol",sans-serif">☏</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">
                                669-227-9595<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                                UI Symbol",sans-serif">✉︎</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> <a
                                  href="mailto:vmf@apple.com"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">vmf@apple.com</a></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#4787FF"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:19 AM,
                        Virginia Fournier via Govreform <<a
                          href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">govreform@cabforum.org</a>>
                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hello all, <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Here are the final
                            documents for Ballot 206.  Please confirm
                            that you’re ready to go forward with them in
                            January after the holidays.  Please also let
                            me know if you can open the Bylaws diff
                            file.  What is the status of the Server
                            Certificate WG’s charter?  Thanks for
                            everyone’s hard work on this project.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><CABF_Ballot206_20DEC17.docx>
                        <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-IPR-Policy-v.1.3_20DEC17_clean.doc>
                        <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-IPR-Policy-v.1.3_20DEC17_redline.doc>
                        <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_20DEC17_clean.doc>
                        <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><CABF-Governance Change
                        FAQ_20DEC17.docx> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><Bylaws DiffNow Comparison
                        Report.htm> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Best
                                        regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Virginia
                                        Fournier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                  </div>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Senior
                                        Standards Counsel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Myriad
                                        Set
                                        Pro",serif;color:#5E5E5E"></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> Apple
                                        Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                                        UI Symbol",sans-serif">☏</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">
                                        669-227-9595<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe
                                        UI Symbol",sans-serif">✉︎</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> <a
                                          href="mailto:vmf@apple.com"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">vmf@apple.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
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                  <pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
                  <pre>Govreform mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
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