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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/2/2018 8:15 μμ, Dean Coclin wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Dimitris,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">We currently
list ETSI 411-1. Why should we change to 401?<br>
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411-1 covers Baseline Requirements and Network Security
Requirements, which is equal to WebTrust for CAs Baseline and
NetSec.<br>
401 covers similar items as WebTrust for CAs.<br>
<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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Dean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> Govreform
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:govreform-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos via
Govreform<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Virginia Fournier <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vfournier@apple.com"><vfournier@apple.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:govreform@cabforum.org"><govreform@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_governance] Ballot 206 and
documents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/2/2018 6:25 μμ, Virginia Fournier
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dimitris, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would you please let us know what
changes you’d propose to resolve the issues you’ve
mentioned below? Your changes weren’t left out
intentionally - we probably just missed your request.
Thanks.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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Certainly. I have attached a red-lined version of the proposed
changes on the "CABF-Bylaws-v.1.8_23-Jan-2018.doc" file, to
align the ETSI audit criteria with WebTrust. I also made a
small reference correction to the "Certificate Consumer"
definition.
<br>
<br>
However, I couldn't provide an easy language fix for the
requirement 2.1 a, and I hope the WG will be able to discuss
on a future call. I will try to highlight the problem and
propose some language to resolve the loop.<br>
<br>
Here are the current definitions:<br>
<br>
<u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(1)
"Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
member organization operates a certification authority that
has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs audit or ETSI
EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a properly-qualified
auditor, is a member of a Working Group, and that actively
issues certificates to end entities, such certificates being
treated as valid by a Certificate Consumer Member.
Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but
otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted Associate
Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to
be designated by the Forum"</span>
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<u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(2)
</span></u>"<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Root
Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
member organization operates a certification authority that
has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">,</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> or ETSI EN
319 401 audit report prepared by a properly-qualified
auditor, is a member of a Working Group, and that issues
certificates to subordinate CAs that, in turn, actively
issue certificates to end entities such certificates being
treated as valid by a Certificate Consumer Member</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
Applicants that are not actively issuing certificates but
otherwise meet membership criteria may be granted Associate
Member status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to
be designated by the Forum. "</span>
<br>
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<u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(3)
</span></u>"<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Certificate
Consumer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
member organization produces a software product, such as a
browser, intended for use by the general public for relying
upon certificates and is a member of a Working Group"</span>
<br>
<br>
First of all, since 2.1 talks about "qualifying for Forum
Membership", which I understand to mean "Applicants", I
propose we replace "member organization" to "applicant
organization". In order to resolve the loop problem, perhaps
the part of the "Certificate Consumer" definition that talks
about software intended for use by the general public for
relying upon certificates, should be included in the
definitions of (1) and (2).
<br>
<br>
Here is a suggestion for these definitions:<br>
<br>
<u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(1)
"Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
applicant organization operates a certification authority
that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs audit or
ETSI EN 319 401 audit report prepared by a
properly-qualified auditor, is a member of a Working Group,
and that actively issues certificates to end entities, such
certificates being treated as valid by a software product,
such as a browser, intended for use by the general public
for relying upon certificates. Applicants that are not
actively issuing certificates but otherwise meet membership
criteria may be granted Associate Member status under Bylaw
Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to be designated by the Forum"</span><br>
<br>
<u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(2)
</span></u>"<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Root
Certificate Issuer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
applicant organization operates a certification authority
that has a current and successful WebTrust for CAs</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">,</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> or ETSI EN
319 401 audit report prepared by a properly-qualified
auditor, is a member of a Working Group, and that issues
certificates to subordinate CAs that, in turn, actively
issue certificates to end entities such certificates being
treated as valid by a software product, such as a browser,
intended for use by the general public for relying upon
certificates</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN">.</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> Applicants
that are not actively issuing certificates but otherwise
meet membership criteria may be granted Associate Member
status under Bylaw Sec. 3.1 for a period of time to be
designated by the Forum. "</span><br>
<br>
<u><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(3)
</span></u>"<u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Certificate
Consumer</span></u><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">: The
applicant organization produces a software product, such as
a browser, intended for use by the general public for
relying upon certificates and is a member of a Working
Group"</span><br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Virginia Fournier<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please excuse iTypos<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Feb 6, 2018, at 12:14 AM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a
href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr" moz-do-not-send="true">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hello all,<br>
<br>
I reviewed the diffs and the proposed alignment
between WebTrust and ETSI is not included in the
proposed Bylaws draft (2.1a). I sent a proposal on
Jan 9th (<a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/xRJEOuXg-y_jlF4bPlvzPYNhn8a6eit8kncIq_wfMZ8=?d=zYU90j46QxTFNxAvlm_vJ4ZGqsTgwmt8yY9zvr0ptokxsxcxPTiHyfv81qHB08VOX3rrzZExOGgmgJkxIPZh2VDCB2-WrHv3HSXYZ8Wzk09rw2zFsyEvlFL13nhb7UzygerGhghF5qQl0uKJbkrgfHeL3_MxqGdnvlA7v_LK1cQLQhJS5vIh8quuXAU7PSSJvzKot7DAJo6bZDIRpzkFwNY2W9QBa2ODpEWTq9Pgug2qPyiezauI14B6fZZzXDwU0Ivj6KGS2Dy_1JXgXrsoUU_njc0WcH8N60MzLhzfYru_KK1QzFyolSRuA_TbFD0QG9P-7dp5mSt1H1BWsQ8OFAuLGgGHPbw9v12-oYSxeZkcV1l_eqlq15pTQI-hUSzH_gt5129IW5k-Txy56XOL79S-5w%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fpipermail%2Fgovreform%2F2018-January%2F000355.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/govreform/2018-January/000355.html</a>)
about the Server Certificate Working Group Charter
but the concept is the same for the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></p>
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If we include the requirement for "WebTrust for
CAs" audit, then the equivalent ETSI audit should
be "<b>ETSI EN 319 401</b>". This probably fits
best for the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></li>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1">
If we include the requirement for "WebTrust for
CAs + WebTrust Baseline + NetSec " audit, then the
equivalent ETSI audit should be "ETSI EN 319
411-1". This probably fits best for the Server
Certificate Working Group Charter.<o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The old ETSI TS standards should
not be included in the new bylaws.<br>
<br>
I was also puzzled with the following requirement in
the Bylaws (section 2.1a) "such certificates being
treated as valid by a Certificate Consumer<b> Member</b>".
So, if a CA issues Certificates for Digital
Signatures which are trusted by Adobe and Adobe is
not a Member of the Forum, then this CA doesn't meet
the requirements. Is this a correct interpretation?<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/2/2018 9:15 πμ, Virginia Fournier via Govreform
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Hi
all,</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My apologies, I have a
conflict for tomorrow’s meeting and will not
be able to attend. I am sending what I hope
are virtually final versions of the
documents. I am sending diff files for the
Bylaws and IPR policy, as the Word compare
function will not cooperate. The diffs may
be easier to read in the end anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As you may have seen from
my email earlier today, we have to cut off
any new issues, content, etc. from being
added to the ballot so we can finalize it.
From this point forward, we need to just
review what we have, clean up typos or any
errors in the ballot, and move it forward.
With this in mind, I’d appreciate it if
you’d review the documents
attached/referenced below to see if there
are any corrections/adjustments that need to
be made. We can keep a list of additional
issues that should be addressed for the next
ballot.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What is the status of the
Server Certificate WG charter? I sent some
comments to Dean/Ben - have you had
a chance to look at those? We
need the final version of that document also
to complete the package.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d like to send the
documents out early next week and start
an “informal” discussion period of 7 days
next for any questions people may have.
Does anyone see any obstacles to doing
that?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s the diff for the
Bylaws (all changes since version 1.7
shown).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s the diff for the
IPR Policy (all changes since version 1.2
shown:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:19 AM,
Virginia Fournier via Govreform <<a
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documents for Ballot 206. Please confirm
that you’re ready to go forward with them in
January after the holidays. Please also let
me know if you can open the Bylaws diff
file. What is the status of the Server
Certificate WG’s charter? Thanks for
everyone’s hard work on this project.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><CABF_Ballot206_20DEC17.docx>
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