<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi Dimitris,<div><br></div><div>Would you please let us know what changes you’d propose to resolve the issues you’ve mentioned below?  Your changes weren’t left out intentionally - we probably just missed your request. Thanks. <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature"><div>Virginia Fournier</div>Sent from my iPhone<div>Please excuse iTypos</div></div><div><br>On Feb 6, 2018, at 12:14 AM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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      Hello all,<br>
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      I reviewed the diffs and the proposed alignment between WebTrust
      and ETSI is not included in the proposed Bylaws draft (2.1a). I
      sent a proposal on Jan 9th
      (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/govreform/2018-January/000355.html">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/govreform/2018-January/000355.html</a>)
      about the Server Certificate Working Group Charter but the concept
      is the same for the Bylaws.<br>
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      <ul>
        <li>If we include the requirement for "WebTrust for CAs" audit,
          then the equivalent ETSI audit should be "<b>ETSI EN 319 401</b>".
          This probably fits best for the Bylaws.<br>
        </li>
        <li>If we include the requirement for "WebTrust for CAs +
          WebTrust Baseline + NetSec " audit, then the equivalent ETSI
          audit should be "ETSI EN 319 411-1". This probably fits best
          for the Server Certificate Working Group Charter.<br>
        </li>
      </ul>
      The old ETSI TS standards should not be included in the new
      bylaws.<br>
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      I was also puzzled with the following requirement in the Bylaws
      (section 2.1a) "such certificates being treated as valid by a
      Certificate Consumer<b> Member</b>". So, if a CA issues
      Certificates for Digital Signatures which are trusted by Adobe and
      Adobe is not a Member of the Forum, then this CA doesn't meet the
      requirements. Is this a correct interpretation?<br>
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      <br>
      Best regards,<br>
      Dimitris.<br>
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      On 6/2/2018 9:15 πμ, Virginia Fournier via Govreform wrote:<br>
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                have a conflict for tomorrow</span>’<span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class="">s
                meeting and will not be able to attend.  I am sending
                what I hope are virtually final versions of the
                documents.  I am sending diff files for the Bylaws and
                IPR policy, as the Word compare function will not
                cooperate. The diffs may be easier to read in the end
                anyway.</span></div>
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                you may have seen from my email earlier today, we have
                to cut off any new issues, </span>content<span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class="">,
                etc. from being added to the ballot so we can finalize
                it.  From this point forward, we need to just review
                what we have, clean up typos or any errors in the
                ballot, and move it forward.  With this in mind, I</span>’<span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class="">d
                appreciate it if you</span>’<span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class="">d
                review the documents attached/referenced below to see if
                there are any corrections/adjustments that need to be
                made.  We can keep a list of additional issues </span>that<span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""> should
                be addressed for the next ballot.</span></div>
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                is the status of the Server Certificate WG charter?  I
                sent some comments to Dean/Ben - have you had a </span>chance<span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""> to
                look at those?  We need </span>the<span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""> final
                version of that document also to complete the package.</span></div>
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                like to send the documents out early next week and start
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                period of 7 days next for any questions people may have.
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        <div class="">On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Virginia Fournier
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            <div class="">Here are the final documents for Ballot 206.
               Please confirm that you’re ready to go forward with them
              in January after the holidays.  Please also let me know if
              you can open the Bylaws diff file.  What is the status of
              the Server Certificate WG’s charter?  Thanks for
              everyone’s hard work on this project.</div>
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